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diamondmike 11-18-2004 08:10

How To Take Apart The Model 27 Magazine
 
I picked up a Glock model 27 and I have never seen anything like this!.

On the bottom of the magazine it has the button to take off the floor plate BUT! it has two little tabs that stop the floor plate from sliding off, one little tab on each side of the magazine.

Anyone know how to take these magazines apart??

kage 11-18-2004 08:21

Glockmeister knows:

http://glockmeister.com/magdis.shtml

diamondmike 11-18-2004 08:34

Kage

Thanks for the information but the magazine in the model 27 just does not slide off like that after pushing in the button!.

I am starting to wonder if the magazine was made so that you can not take it apart!.

kage 11-18-2004 09:43

I've got a G27 also...you have to squeeze the sides of the magazine a little, but they do disassemble.

It gets easier once you've done it a few times. I frequently change between the standard baseplate and the Pearce +1 extensions on each of my magazines, so I've gotten better at it - but the first time took a while.

mpol777 11-18-2004 09:50

Those tabs are on all mags, that I know at least, and the floorplate will pop around them. Don't be afraid to put some force on it, it'll go.

DannyR 11-18-2004 11:27

Firmly insert a Glock tool all the way through the hole, flipping the plastic insert out of the way.

Using the inserted tool as leverage, pull forward about 1/2 inch while squeexing the base with your other hand.

Remove the tool and carefull slide the base off, being ready to catch the spring.

You don't just push the button as must folks seem to think. You have to insert the tool or punch far enough, firmly enough, to flip the plastic insert over on it's side.

Total operation should take less than 3 seconds.

RandySmith 11-18-2004 12:07

Piece of cake...

Mag disassembly

Randy

DannyR 11-18-2004 12:55

Randy,

Thanks for making the video that I've been trying to make. I have requested it be made into a sticky.

DWavs 11-18-2004 16:20

Quote:

Originally posted by DannyR
Randy,

Thanks for making the video that I've been trying to make. I have requested it be made into a sticky.

Stickied per your request.

David

diamondmike 11-18-2004 18:54

Thanks for all the advice men!

But I took it to a gun shop and the guy put a towel around it and took a pair of channel locks and pressed in the bottom of the magazine and pushed in the button at the same time and off it came!, I had him put on a finger extension and it feels great!!.

That model 27 is the same size as my Kel-Tec P-11 but weighs more but is a very very accurate gun for being such a large caliber in such a small gun.

It says it holds 9 rounds but I had to really fight the 9th one in.

When I do Diamond deals out of state I have been carrying a Colt Officers model 45acp, I think those days of packing the Colt are over with I am going to carry my model 27 I just can not believe how accurate it is.

I used the CorBon 135gr. and think that it will/would make a great man stopper!

But thanks again for all the advice!!

RandySmith 11-18-2004 19:00

Quote:

... took a pair of channel locks...
I hope he didn't ruin it.

Randy

diamondmike 11-18-2004 19:18

NO! it did not ruin it, theres not even as much as a scratch or dent on it.

Every where I read it said to press in the bottom sides of the magazine to get the floor plate off, I work out every day and use hand grips when I am not busy doing anything else and I tried to press the sides in with my bare hands and it would not budge, it took all he had using the channel locks these little magazines are built like a tank!.

The gun came with two magazines so I am just going to keep the finger extension on one magazine and keep one magazine without it.

RandySmith 11-18-2004 19:40

It doesn't take much strength at all - just proper technique.

Randy

diamondmike 11-19-2004 11:15

I watched the video and it made the job look simple, do you need that special tool?

I could see where the guy pressed in the sides of the magazine but mine sure does not bend in that easy, or is it the trick of that special tool that makes it come apart easier?

Steve A 11-19-2004 12:25

You can accomplish the same thing with a pin punch from your local hardware store. It's a 3/32" if I remember correctly. You don't really have to squeeze hard on the sides, the technique is what does it.

Nice video!

DannyR 11-19-2004 13:34

If macho gun shop man dented you mag, the dent will be on the metal inside and not on the polymer outside. It takes very little strength to squeeze the tube. I'm 60, just getting over a heart attack, and can still do it behind my back in 3 seconds.;)

The hands in the video are the hands of Randy's wife.

RandySmith 11-19-2004 13:52

Quote:

The hands in the video are the hands of Randy's wife.
Oh my goodness no! She was on the other end of the camera. ;)

Randy

diamondmike 11-19-2004 15:19

RandySmith

Where do you get these tools from that was used in the video?

I have called three gun shops and none of them have ever heard of this tool.

Yesterday I took that magazine to a total of 4 different gun shops and none of them knew how to get it apart!.

They all said just push in the button and slide it right off, after I showed them the tabs on the sides they was really puzzled, one guy called over another guy and that guy said that the magazines was made like that so that they can not be taken apart.

Thanks for posting the video I now atleast know not to take channel locks to get it apart!.

RandySmith 11-19-2004 15:48

The tool I used in the video is the standard glock armorer's tool. I got it when I attended the course. They are also available from all the on-line glock supply places - Lone Wolf, Top Glock, etc...

I am glad you found the video to be of use.

Randy

diamondmike 11-19-2004 17:01

Well I took one apart!

I used a long thin ice pick and did it just like you showed in the video and it came right apart and only slightly pressed in on the sides.

It is unreal how many gun shops out there sell the Glocks and do not know the first thing about how to do such a simple job as this.

I am glad that they stuck your video up to stay!, I am sure alot of people will benifit from it.

THANKS!

DAG27 11-21-2004 20:35

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sdfhpson 12-10-2004 21:38

I don't like the sound of the "click" when you pry on the plate... sounds like something breaking!

RandySmith 12-11-2004 05:44

You are compressing the magazine spring when you press down on the insert with the armorer's tool. When the insert slips out from underneath the armorer's tool, the magazine spring's tension is released. The magazine spring uncompresses and strikes the underside of the floor plate. 'CLICK'

This is the technique for full capacity magazines. Any of the 10-rounders produced to meet the restrictions of the klinton gun ban are better handled in a slightly different way. Instead of pushing the tool straight down into the magazine, angle the tip towards the front of the magazine and insert. There is an additional 'shelf' on each side of the left and right insides of the magazine tube. These prevent the magazine insert from going straight down. It must angle downward in the front to be pushed into the tube.

Randy

canis latrans 12-19-2004 06:41

can the 9 rounders be easily converted to 11 rounds mags (now that we're legal to have them)?

DannyR 12-19-2004 07:12

No!

The reason 9-round magazines are not 10-round magazines is that 9 is the physical limit. You have to add a "+" base to increase the capacity of 9-round magazines.


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