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ysr_racer 02-16-2014 23:24

What ever happened wth the CCW holder shot outside Costco in LV ?
 
I think his name was Erik Scott ?

Wasn't heal a SEAL or something?

Anybody remember this, it was a few years ago.

IndyGunFreak 02-16-2014 23:36

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Originally Posted by ysr_racer (Post 21016995)
I think his name was Erik Scott ?

Wasn't heal a SEAL or something?

Anybody remember this, it was a few years ago.

He died as I recall..

You talking about the one who was shot by the police?

mixflip 02-17-2014 01:42

This was years ago so my memory could be off a bit...

His autopsy showed he had some type of medication in him. I think he was an Annapolis graduate not a SEAL.

Costco had video tapes of the exact spot where he was but Costco conveniently said their surveillance system was down that day so there was no video.

I also heard he was ripping into packages and ignoring employees demands to leave the property. Someone saw one of his 2 holstered pistols as he was ripping into the products and called police. I don't know if a Costco employee reported it as brandishing a firearm?

Police make contact and give him orders to put his hands up. I heard he reached for his waistband (he did not reach for the sky) and shots were fired.

2 handguns were found on him. Why a seemingly normal well educated man was acting abnormal and agitated in the store and why a CCW permit holder did not automatically put his hands up...no one seems to know?


Life is stranger than fiction sometimes.

Just this last friday an unarmed man broke free from a police officer conducting a stop of a man who was harassing bicyclists out on a highway in the desert. The man ran to the patrol vehicle and grabbed for the AR15. He was told to stop...He didn't...and was shot dead.

Life is strange. There are people out there who do strange irrational things.

Patchman 02-17-2014 04:33

I'm curious what happened to his girlfriend.

As you remember, Scott was a West Pointer and had been full of painkillers. So much pain killers in his system that a MD had declared anybody with less tolerance would be dead. His gf comes into play because she had (soon before the event) been fired from a MD's office for stealing prescription pads.

Patchman 02-17-2014 06:18

Oh, the Scott family hired a lawyer to sue LVPD. Their lawyer is the son of LV's mayor. You can't get better odds than that anywhere in LV!

frank4570 02-17-2014 07:04

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Originally Posted by Patchman (Post 21017195)
I'm curious what happened to his girlfriend.

As you remember, Scott was a West Pointer and had been full of painkillers. So much pain killers in his system that a MD had declared anybody with less tolerance would be dead. His gf comes into play because she had (soon before the event) been fired from a MD's office for stealing prescription pads.

I've seen people on painkillers do some pretty wild stuff. It seems at some point sanity heads on to the back seat and lets the fantasy world drive for a while.
I know a guy who drove down to walmart and parked his car. He walked in, got a cart, and went through the store picking out stuff he wanted. The just pushed the cart right out into the parking lot and went home with his stuff. His wife returned everything without a word exchanged.
He was on meds for serious back problems.(he has a history of problems with drugs) Next day, same thing. This time he went to jail.

SC Tiger 02-17-2014 08:07

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Originally Posted by mixflip (Post 21017128)
This was years ago so my memory could be off a bit...

His autopsy showed he had some type of medication in him. I think he was an Annapolis graduate not a SEAL.

Costco had video tapes of the exact spot where he was but Costco conveniently said their surveillance system was down that day so there was no video.

I also heard he was ripping into packages and ignoring employees demands to leave the property. Someone saw one of his 2 holstered pistols as he was ripping into the products and called police. I don't know if a Costco employee reported it as brandishing a firearm?

Police make contact and give him orders to put his hands up. I heard he reached for his waistband (he did not reach for the sky) and shots were fired.

2 handguns were found on him. Why a seemingly normal well educated man was acting abnormal and agitated in the store and why a CCW permit holder did not automatically put his hands up...no one seems to know?


Life is stranger than fiction sometimes.

Just this last friday an unarmed man broke free from a police officer conducting a stop of a man who was harassing bicyclists out on a highway in the desert. The man ran to the patrol vehicle and grabbed for the AR15. He was told to stop...He didn't...and was shot dead.

Life is strange. There are people out there who do strange irrational things.

Not sure how many people here are familiar with Bill Carnes of 2nd Amendment Radio (he was on season 1 of Top Shot as well).

He did a piece on this where he contended that Erik Scott was shot only because he was carrying in a Costco. He even played the tape of the police radio.

Personally I never heard anything that was incriminating. The camera being down is suspicious but hardly conclusive.

And for the record, if the account mixflip posted is accurate, I do not blame Costco for calling the police when a man is a) armed (legally or not) and b) destroying property despite being asked not to. I would not want one of my employees to confront someone like that and get shot.

<< Shops at Sam's but just because it is closer. I have heard (may have been by Carnes on the radio) that the LV (at least) Costco isn't very gun-friendly though.

ysr_racer 02-17-2014 08:46

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Originally Posted by mixflip (Post 21017128)

Life is stranger than fiction sometimes.

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Agreed. The other one I wonder about is the homeowner that killed a masked invader in his neighbor's house, and it turned out to be his own son.

Anybody remember that one?

Sam Spade 02-17-2014 08:51

It didn't go well for the family. Shooting was ruled justified; they sued. When the evidence started coming out, they dropped the suit, first against costco, then against the police.


http://m.lvsun.com/news/2012/mar/13/...tro-police-ov/

Ranger357 02-17-2014 09:28

A lot of times people get very suspicious and come up with conspiracies when a story comes out and someones described actions makes no sense.



The problem is as a another thread describes, 70 million Americans are now on legal or illegal mind altering drugs, many that cause frequent or occasional erratic and/or bizarre behavior. Every day you can look at the news and see totally insane behavior by seemingly "normal" people.


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