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Austin Millbarge 03-22-2013 06:34

Securing rifles in a Ford Expedition
 
So, I just got issued a Ford Expedition for patrol, and have nowhere to secure my M4. Our wonderful policy is to secure long guns in the trunk, but I no longer have a trunk. Our DEP guys have an overhead rack with locks. My agency is moderately touchy feely so I don't think I can pull that off without a boss having a solid gold kitten.

Any body bolt one to the floor? Console?

I have no room in the back part, rack of portable scales take up that room.

Thanks.

Ftttu 03-22-2013 10:09

I was driving an '08 Expedition for about 6 months last year, and I just don't remember how the rack was mounted behind my head. What I can't remember is if it was mounted on the ceiling or the cage. I won't see the unit again until next Wednesday. It is possible it is mounted like my current '09 CVPI, but I can't run out and see it right now since it is being borrowed by another officer today.(still not happy they took his unit for 2 weeks for our academy's EVOC class)

Austin Millbarge 03-22-2013 10:10

Thanks, no cage in mine, so I would have to find another way to secure it. I'm thinking bolt the lock to the floor.

txleapd 03-22-2013 10:20

Could you make something like this work?


http://www.raclocked.com/product/NG-93000056



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Austin Millbarge 03-22-2013 10:30

Possibly, that could work. Thanks.

Steve in PA 03-22-2013 16:33

Our rifle and shotgun are in cases that are stowed in the rear compartment of our Expedition.

collim1 03-23-2013 04:45

http://www.pro-gard.com/products/Cargo_Cabinets.asp

http://www.pro-gard.com/products/G5500.asp

The second is a no holes drilled installation, not sure about the first.

Austin Millbarge 03-23-2013 05:58

No room for something that big, portable truck scales in the back. Thanks though.

pgg00 03-23-2013 07:28

How about something like this? Put a rifle lock on it instead of a shotgun mount. It'll be muzzle down into the passenger side floor board.
http://www.pro-gard.com/products/G4908.asp

WiCK3D_SiX 03-23-2013 07:42

Check out fleetsafety.com for some nice vehicle racks and storage. Love that site.

Dustin

walkin' trails 03-24-2013 16:32

Consider a Truck Vault. The company builds them to fit all of the common SUVs used b law enforcement, and its probably the safest, most secure, least visible way to conceal long guns and other equipment. They're not cheap, probably running $600-800, but they're also relatively easy to install compared to racks.

I ran into that problem trying to find racks for AR-15s about seven years ago. Most of the traditional racks are designed for Crown Vics, Caprices, Impalas, Tahoes, but none for less visible unmarked vehicles such as Grand Prixs, Taurus (before the current interceptor), G6s, etc. It ended up getting expensive after finding a shop to fabricate the mounts so we could put them in trunks. Furthermore, I learned on a Nissan Altima that there really wasn't enough thick metal in the trunk floor or deck to screw into. The only place where the metal was thick enough was in the floor pan, and the fuel tank was directly below causing them not to want to drill there either. We don't run cages, and I've had reasonable luck putting a rack horizontally on the floor behind the front seats of SUVs and four door pickups. With intermediate sized vehicles, however, it kills your back seat leg room.

That's why I would say go for the Truck Vaults.

CBennett 03-24-2013 19:41

The one i saw(durango) had 2 light gauge metal cases slightly larger than a gun case about the same type of metal used in those stackon types they seemed to be made to bolt to the floor of the storage space in a suv they had 2 one had a AR with mags in it the other a shotgun. I think it may have been a Sgt's /supervisors vehicle.

they have something similar at intensetactical.com

also look at www.800toolbox.com/lockup_box/lockup_boxes

Ftttu 03-25-2013 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ftttu (Post 20112524)
I was driving an '08 Expedition for about 6 months last year, and I just don't remember how the rack was mounted behind my head. What I can't remember is if it was mounted on the ceiling or the cage. I won't see the unit again until next Wednesday. It is possible it is mounted like my current '09 CVPI, but I can't run out and see it right now since it is being borrowed by another officer today.(still not happy they took his unit for 2 weeks for our academy's EVOC class)

Our CVPI and Expeditions have the rifle racks bolted to the front side of the cage's roll bar. Since the OP's unit has no cage, that is out of the quesion.

Austin Millbarge 03-29-2013 07:47

Thanks for the ideas, just going to use a Big Sky rack and bolt it to my scales and weld the bolts over.

MakeMineA10mm 03-29-2013 20:27

Good solution you've already figured out for yourself.

Being the dept. smart-anus, I'd have to fabricate the rack to lay horizontally across that expansive dashboard, just because "they" want to be low-profile... :)


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