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BIGGUNS911 03-18-2013 09:21

Two recent shooting involving .22 round to the head. Not effective at all!!
 
The two attached news reports are about subjects being shot in the head with .22 caliber rounds. In both the subject lived, in one the victim was shot several times and was still able to get to a gun in his nightstand. I would say .22 is not my first thought for self defense.

http://www.khq.com/story/21664703/po...or-in-the-head

http://www.columbiabasinherald.com/n...tml?mode=story

glock_collector 03-18-2013 10:11

maybe they should live by the motto: Anything worth shooting once, is worth shooting again.....and again....and again... and again... ( .22 are cheap, fill'em up!)

SCmasterblaster 03-18-2013 10:34

The .22 bullet failed to penetrate the frontal skull. No surprise there. Get a 9mm or larger.

DragonRider 03-18-2013 13:20

A coworker of mine survived .32 to the head, 2 to the lower torso and 1 to the leg..... from her then husband, all from arm length distance's.

Sometimes shot placement is not the key......

Arc Angel 03-18-2013 15:06

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Originally Posted by BIGGUNS911 (Post 20099914)
The two attached news reports are about subjects being shot in the head with .22 caliber rounds. In both the subject lived, in one the victim was shot several times and was still able to get to a gun in his nightstand. I would say .22 is not my first thought for self defense.

http://www.khq.com/story/21664703/po...or-in-the-head

http://www.columbiabasinherald.com/n...tml?mode=story

:headscratch: So, your point is?

There's not enough information in either one of those articles to establish anything, either one way or the other, about the presumed effectiveness, or lack thereof, of a, '22'.

You need to remember that the Western World's covert military agencies haven't, almost unanimously, used rimfire 22 LR caliber cartridges AND head shots for the past 50 years because the cartridge doesn't work. Read the book, 'Hit Team' about the Israeli Mossad's European operations during the mid 1970's. Were he, still, alive Chicago mobster Sam Giancana might tell you different about what a 22 LR is capable of, too! ;)

I got hit with a 22 (LR) once; it knocked me off my feet! Have you ever been hit by a marble fired out of a Saunders, 'Wrist Rocket' slingshot? One of those suckers hits hard enough to make you, 'convert to Catholicism'; and, still, a rimfire 22 LR round hits a lot harder than a marble out of a, 'Wrist Rocket'. (Don't bother asking, 'How' I know!) :supergrin:

Wil Ufgood 03-18-2013 15:12

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SCmasterblaster 03-18-2013 16:45

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Originally Posted by Wil Ufgood (Post 20100891)

Well I'll keep on carrying my peasant's weapon, thank you very much. My G17 has been on duty since 1989.

Wil Ufgood 03-18-2013 16:53

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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster (Post 20101200)
Well I'll keep on carrying my peasant's weapon, thank you very much. My G17 has been on duty since 1989.

http://www.whiteoak.org/wp-content/u...val_Morons.jpg

SCmasterblaster 03-18-2013 17:00

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Originally Posted by Wil Ufgood (Post 20101231)

My two M1911a1 .45s stay locked up. My G17 with 115gr JHP +P+ ammo stays by my side. My Mossberg M500 shotgun is also ready for trouble (OOO buckshot and slugs).

Wil Ufgood 03-18-2013 17:08

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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster (Post 20101269)
My two M1911a1 .45s stay locked up. My G17 with 115gr JHP +P+ ammo stays by my side. My Mossberg M500 shotgun is also ready for trouble (OOO buckshot and slugs).


http://i52.tinypic.com/2rr2w68.jpg

CanyonMan 03-18-2013 17:09

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GIG4FUN 03-18-2013 17:11

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Originally Posted by BIGGUNS911 (Post 20099914)
The two attached news reports are about subjects being shot in the head with .22 caliber rounds. In both the subject lived, in one the victim was shot several times and was still able to get to a gun in his nightstand. I would say .22 is not my first thought for self defense.

http://www.khq.com/story/21664703/po...or-in-the-head

http://www.columbiabasinherald.com/n...tml?mode=story

and you said it!

oh, and why the heck would anyone shoot a visitor :rofl:

GIG4FUN 03-18-2013 17:12

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Originally Posted by Wil Ufgood (Post 20100891)

:rofl:

SCmasterblaster 03-18-2013 17:20

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Originally Posted by Wil Ufgood (Post 20101295)

What the heck happened to that G20?

NMG26 03-18-2013 17:26

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Originally Posted by BIGGUNS911 (Post 20099914)

Looks like the .22 stopped the attack.

No fight in the guy after a .22 to the head.

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Wil Ufgood 03-18-2013 17:32

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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster (Post 20101353)
What the heck happened to that G20?

Internet pic. I've only seen one Glock kaboom in person, at an IDPA match. It was a G22.

SCmasterblaster 03-18-2013 17:34

The second story doesn't say if the parents were killed.

Little Joe 03-18-2013 18:15

We had one guy up here get shot with one .22 round to the chest and he died on the spot. It probably pierced his heart, I would imagine. Another guy was killed with one shot to the chest at point blank range from a .25 auto. It looks like chest shots are more effective with these calibers.

SCmasterblaster 03-18-2013 18:22

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Originally Posted by Little Joe (Post 20101587)
We had one guy up here get shot with one .22 round to the chest and he died on the spot. It probably pierced his heart, I would imagine. Another guy was killed with one shot to the chest at point blank range from a .25 auto. It looks like chest shots are more effective with these calibers.

The only thick bone in the way is the sternum. The skull is known to stop .22s and .25s.

NMG26 03-18-2013 18:26

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Originally Posted by Little Joe (Post 20101587)
We had one guy up here get shot with one .22 round to the chest and he died on the spot. It probably pierced his heart, I would imagine. Another guy was killed with one shot to the chest at point blank range from a .25 auto. It looks like chest shots are more effective with these calibers.


Chest, chest, nuts, will probably stop them.



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