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capnjim01 03-11-2013 13:01

which caliber
 
Thinking about buying a long gun just to have around just incase SHTF or just to shoot. 30-06 or 308 any suggesstions.

countrygun 03-11-2013 13:04

.308 for your purposes beyond a doubt.

UselessEnergy 03-11-2013 13:21

just to "shoot", is that range use?

308 is a good choice, but seems a little overboard.. Id say 5.56 and never look bad...

Or .22 Magnum

sourdough44 03-11-2013 13:41

308, 2nd choice 223.

JBnTX 03-11-2013 13:54

I'd go with 223, unless you plan on firing at ranges in excess of 500 yards.

223 is a lot cheaper to shoot than 308.
30.06 is more expensive than both of them.

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aircarver 03-11-2013 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBnTX (Post 20078611)
I'd go with 223, unless you plan on firing at ranges in excess of 500 yards.

223 is a lot cheaper to shoot than 308.
30.06 is more expensive than both of them.

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... Covers the whole conversation in one thumbnail ... :thumbsup:

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BenjiEDF 03-11-2013 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnjim01 (Post 20078468)
Thinking about buying a long gun just to have around just incase SHTF or just to shoot. 30-06 or 308 any suggesstions.

Ruger M77 International would fit the bill
don't let the MSRP put you off, they are both about $650
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/d...+International

made in .308 and 30-06

If you want to spend a little more look up the Gunsite Scout

ronin.45 03-11-2013 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by countrygun (Post 20078476)
.308 for your purposes beyond a doubt.

Agreed

donmor53 03-11-2013 15:33

Another .308 vote here...

garya1961 03-11-2013 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBnTX (Post 20078611)
I'd go with 223, unless you plan on firing at ranges in excess of 500 yards.

223 is a lot cheaper to shoot than 308.
30.06 is more expensive than both of them.

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From what I've seen there isn't a lot of difference in price right now.
I would get the 308.

countrygun 03-11-2013 17:31

The OP mentioned SHTF,

for me, in that case I would rather have power and range, and not need it, than need power and range, and not have it.

Adamz04 03-11-2013 17:40

If ammo cost isn't a factor you could pick up a .270 Winchester or .243 Winchester rifle. Less popular caliber may mean more on the shelves.
Of the two you mentioned I'd go .308

moeman 03-11-2013 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnjim01 (Post 20078468)
Thinking about buying a long gun just to have around just incase SHTF or just to shoot. 30-06 or 308 any suggesstions.

BTW: Both 30-06 and .308 ar correct answers!

If you are a hunter and want bolt guns primarily-- 30-06 has some advantages over .308 for heavy bullet use. e.g. one can load/buy a 200+gr in a 30-06.

If you want a semi-auto at some point go .308.

They are like brothers--very simular in strength, one taller (30-06). The length of the 30-06 makes for longer action bolt guns and fewer semi-auto options (almost no black rifles in 30-06 if that matters). Modern semis are basically .308 by sales numbers. (NOT THAT MODERN IS BETTER, an old Garand in 30-06 is a bad ass gun!)

Ammo prices are simular but the .308 is winning over time.

As other posters mentioned, know going in that each round you shoot will be $.50-for steel case non reloadable to around a buck for common brass case ammo. Hunting rounds can be more.

So--my big question to the OP... Now you know the price of ammo--does .223 at $.20-40 sound a lot better--this option is basically only if you want to plink or not hunt--still good for self defense but so a shotgun etc...

Bottom line: Think about ammo prices and avialablity then the gun... I made the mistake in the past buying the new *****en round only to regret it.

BTW: Both 30-06 and .308 ar correct answers!

skeeter7 03-12-2013 00:53

I would go .308 as well. I love shooting it.

panzer1 03-12-2013 04:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by UselessEnergy (Post 20078518)
just to "shoot", is that range use?

308 is a good choice, but seems a little overboard.. Id say 5.56 and never look bad...

Or .22 Magnum

Not me I would say 5.45x39. Better round than the 5.56 cheaper (by far) & if you get the milsurp even better. That's just IMO.

Restless28 03-12-2013 05:28

Mosin Nagant FTW. Buy a handful and a few hundred rounds and still have plenty of change in your pocket.

GreenDrake 03-12-2013 05:39

300 Blackout

byf43 03-12-2013 08:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBnTX (Post 20078611)
I'd go with 223, unless you plan on firing at ranges in excess of 500 yards.

223 is a lot cheaper to shoot than 308.
30.06 is more expensive than both of them.

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^^^Normally, I would agree 100% with the above statement. ^^^
(Around here, .223 is getting to be $1.00/round!!!!!)




Quote:

Originally Posted by Adamz04 (Post 20079497)
If ammo cost isn't a factor you could pick up a .270 Winchester or .243 Winchester rifle. Less popular caliber may mean more on the shelves.
Of the two you mentioned I'd go .308

^^^'Today', I think I'd go with either .270 or .243, simply because of 'the market' on ammo and reloading supplies.

Around here, you cannot find .223, .308 or .30-'06 ammo and/or components.
However, .270 and .243/6mm 'stuff' is fairly plentiful.


Another option is a .30-30 levergun.
That 'old catridge' :supergrin: has been going strong and is more than plentiful, still.

Garandimal 03-12-2013 13:27

Easy:

1. US RIFLE CAL. .30 M1 Service Grade Garand ($650 delivered) from the CMP.

2. A few 200 round cans of M2 ball 30-06 HXP (at ~ $0.55/round delivered) from the CMP.


Solving problems out to 500 Yards since 1936.

:supergrin:



GR

Brucev 03-12-2013 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnjim01 (Post 20078468)
Thinking about buying a long gun just to have around just incase SHTF or just to shoot. 30-06 or 308 any suggesstions.

For the purpose posted, buy a AR-15 in 5.56mm. Then buy magazines and ammo.


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