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Morris 02-01-2013 15:58

Carry those trauma kits!
 
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/health/189147551.html

ClydeG19 02-01-2013 18:01

I've carried a QuikClot 25 ACS in my left cargo pocket for as long as I've been a cop. Thankfully, I've never had to use it on myself or another officer. I would use it on a child, firefighter, ems...maybe a hot girl who I followed for several miles.

CJStudent 02-01-2013 19:37

Wow! Talk about timing!

seanmac45 02-01-2013 19:49

I was trying to convince the department head of my current job to purchase something similar last week.


He looked at me as though I had six heads.

CJStudent 02-01-2013 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanmac45 (Post 19938902)
I was trying to convince the department head of my current job to purchase something similar last week.


He looked at me as though I had six heads.

They look that way at the paramedic we have that's all ate up with this kind of stuff. We have LOADS of mass-casualty equipment and training, thanks to him pushing for it, yet people think it's some kind of joke.

SCSU74 02-01-2013 20:01

One of ours :( thankful for the haltom city officer there with trauma kit. He's out of surgery and doing well. Shot 3 times total. BG DRT.

Anyone interested in trauma kit should check out officer survival solutions. They make a kit that is vacuum sealed and fits behind trauma plate for $44, also have same kit made for pocket carry. Owner is a good dude and answered the phone on first ring.


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ottomatic 02-01-2013 20:50

I have a trauma kit with my rifle, but nothing on me. Does anybody know if maybe two of the two-Gram Celox pax might be enough for a "typical GSW?

Morris 02-01-2013 21:34

I had two pockets sewn on to my Bratwear, each side of my leg just above the knee. Left side contains a CAT, Combat Gauze and Sani-Wipe packs I get from the hosedraggers. The right at least four pairs of gloves.

I looked at some small kits but alas, they're were just a size too big for the pocket. This is my local go to kit guys:

http://www.officersurvival.org/

Newcop761 02-01-2013 21:42

My office just got 60 kits from Jake @ Officer Survival Initiatives. (Awesome service.)

They aren't doing any good in the boss's office. I liberated one last night before going to the range today.

SCSU74 02-01-2013 21:53

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Originally Posted by ottomatic (Post 19939091)
I have a trauma kit with my rifle, but nothing on me. Does anybody know if maybe two of the two-Gram Celox pax might be enough for a "typical GSW?

Lots of variables. Depends on location and if there's an entrance and exit or just entrance wound. I carry 2x QC combat gauze on my person and 5x more between plate carrier and med bag. IMHO a tourn is more important than QC.


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Ducowti 02-02-2013 05:40

I keep a kit in my motor's pannier. Been there for years, hope it has no occasion for an appearance.


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lndshark 02-02-2013 06:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morris (Post 19939245)
I had two pockets sewn on to my Bratwear, each side of my leg just above the knee. Left side contains a CAT, Combat Gauze and Sani-Wipe packs I get from the hosedraggers. The right at least four pairs of gloves.

I looked at some small kits but alas, they're were just a size too big for the pocket. This is my local go to kit guys:

http://www.officersurvival.org/

Thank you for the link, sir. Just ordered a Basic Patrol Aid Kit. And your peeps are from my (?) future home town of Kingston, to boot!

Glockwork Orange 02-02-2013 07:06

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series1811 02-02-2013 07:10

I used to keep Israeli bandages in my raid vest, my glove compartment, my desk, and everywhere else I could think of.

OfficerSurvival 02-02-2013 17:12

NewCop & Morris-

Thanks for the props, I'm glad you guys have been happy with us so far. And thanks for liberating that kit NewCop. You're right, they do no good in the bosses office.

Morris- your kit should be there by Tuesday. If you have any issues at all, let me know.

Let me know if anyone needs anything.

//Jake


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nikerret 02-03-2013 11:07

I'd sure like every LEO to be issues kits like these. I've managed a few kits from Jake, for my carry, but I don't know of anyone else who carries one.

My agency did issue us a package of Quickclot Combat Gauze and some extra gauze, which each person is ordered to keep in their glove compartment. I would like to see us go a step further and put some on every officer; at least, give them to each officer (I know some guys won't carry them).

walkin' trails 02-03-2013 11:15

Its hard with many agencies to convince anyone holding the purse strings that individual trauma kits are a worthy investment. I was after mine to buy something with Quick Clot for years, and finally got something with gauze and a tournequet, but only for a few folks. I was able to get Israeli bandages a couple of years before, but only because they were dirt cheap. When there's no money for pouches to carry them, then stuff gets left in lockers, on desks, or in trunks. I have always been a proponent of just going out and buying what you need if the job doesn't issue it, but there are a number of folks out there who think otherwise.

OfficerSurvival 02-03-2013 11:30

Walkin'-

I think trauma kits right now are where vests were 30 years ago. Everybody needs it, few acknowledge it, and nobody wants to pay for it. It's hard to convince an agency that $35-$50 is a worthy "investment" until they've been there. We've even tried to break it down by the numbers for the bean counting types. $35-$50 for a kit vs. an average cost of $1.3M for a LODD. Even that seems to be a hard sell. The good news is the idea is catching traction and we're seeing more and more folks pushing their bosses for the gear they need.

//Jake

Morris 02-03-2013 14:29

Jake has a new product from Phokus that is catching my eye:

http://www.officersurvival.org/colle...ns-trauma-kits

For those without a plethora of pocket to slip kits into.

pgg00 02-03-2013 17:41

Something I need to get. I have bandages and a standard first aid kit in my car but nothing to carry on my person.

DoogieHowser 02-04-2013 12:49

Tagged for later, need to dig up the post I made detailing the things suggested in a kit.

BigSpenda864 02-04-2013 12:55

North American Rescue here in Greenville, SC has great products. They have everything from massive hemorrhage kits and casualty response kits to hypothermia prevention gear.

http://www.narescue.com/

bccop 02-04-2013 13:14

I forwarded this article to our Force Options Training Unit and they are now enthusiastically working towards getting us trauma kits. Just last month they gave us all CAT tourniquets.

Hey Officer Survival. I forwarded your company info. I like supporting local businesses.

I've been meaning to put together a small kit to put on my tac vest as well. Maybe I'll send a few more e-mails and try to get that issued instead of paying for it.

OfficerSurvival 02-04-2013 21:15

Thanks everybody for 1) Talking about trauma kits and 2) all the kind words and referrals for us! A couple quick notes-

North American Rescue- We love NAR and we carry a lot of their products, so if you're looking for a CAT or one of their other items, we match their advertised pricing and love to sell their kit. Since we carry other brands as well, we're a good mix & match spot (IMHO, of course).

Phokus Kits: These things are the heat and are flying off the shelves. Morris and I were talking the other day about how this is one of those "Why didn't I think of that" items that seems to smack you in the face. Unfortunately, I just got word from the manufacturer that the cheaper model (the LETK3G) has been D/C'ed so once the ones on our shelves are gone, that's it. I'd like to see these goes to LEO's so if you're on the fence, I would pick one up soon. Shoot me an email at jake@officersurvival.org with your GT screen name and your agency and I'll give you the agency price too. Or you can PM me here. Or call.

BC- Thanks for the referral! We love BC, it's like Washington only more mellow. At least once you get out of Vancouver. Let me know if you guys have any questions or specific needs.

Finally, a question for everyone. Would you be willing to carry less trauma gear if it fit in your soft armor's plate pocket? We're trying to find the happy medium on a new line that finds the balance between price, amount of gear, and size. I'd really appreciate your feedback.

Thanks!

//Jake

Morris 02-04-2013 22:28

Guess I had better call you tomorrow then . . .


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