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Honey Badger 01-26-2013 18:27

Ammo
 
Hey everyone I'm just wondering if anyone has shot with wolf ammo? And if so is it any good I no price is cheap. Second, reloaded ammo, is it ok to shoot? Thanks!

LampShadeActual 01-26-2013 18:33

Before they lock this "ammo" thread like the reloading ammo one below, some info.

Reload your own and control your own ammo supply. Easiest reload I have found yet for any 9mm Glock.

*Brass= my own fired brass and range pickup brass full length resized and deprimed.
*Primers= inside neck expand and prime with any WW, FC, CCI, or RP primer that is "small pistol"
*Bullets= 115 grain JHP or FMJ, 124 grain JHP or FMJ, 124 LRN (lead round nose)
*Powder= 4.1 grains Bullseye Pistol Powder with any of these three bullets.
*Normal power American level 9mm load with any of the three bullets.
*COAL= 1.100 to +0.002" in actual seating. No shorter.

I have used the 115 jacketed bullets when 124 jacketed were not readily available by the thousands. Remington Bulk from MidWayUSA in 2000s is the easiest order for good bullets.

Recently, jacketed bullets are on indeterminate backorder so I picked up a few thousand 124 grain LRN cast bullets measuring out at 0.355-6" and cast fairly hard.

They shoot to the same point of impact and as accurately as the jacketed without any leading in a M19 barrel and in a M17 barrel.

The three loads above shoot to the same zero almost and certainly close enough to never lose one outside an IPSC "A" zone center through 25 yards offhand. They also shoot to the same zero as the two guns sighted specifically for Fed147HydraShok in the M17 and for Hornady 135 Critical Duty in the M19.

Lee Carbine dies, Lyman cast iron press, powder via a RCBS Little Dandy with the rotor that throws 4.1 grains of Bullseye, #7 rotor on the RCBS chart. The fixed hole never screws up and never changes.

pangloss9 01-26-2013 18:38

I've shot Wolf, Brown Bear, & Silver Bear with no problems. I like Silver Bear the most, but I've shot the least of it among the three. I also really like Aguila ammo. It costs a little more, but it is brass cased.

HGxyz 01-26-2013 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by pangloss9 (Post 19914922)
I've shot Wolf, Brown Bear, & Silver Bear with no problems. I like Silver Bear the most, but I've shot the least of it among the three. I also really like Aguila ammo. It costs a little more, but it is brass cased.

I've shot at least 10K Silver Bear rounds - found one inverted primer and maybe 2 that didn't ignite. At $179/1000 I was quite happy with it. G17/G26/G19 had no problems cycling it. It's low power and a little dirty. I haven't picked up any for a year or two though. Still going through some bargain S&B stuff I found last summer. Very good ammo if you can find it.

tango44 01-27-2013 10:35

More than 5K rounds thru my G19 & G26 with no problems at all!

SJ 40 01-27-2013 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by LampShadeActual (Post 19914913)
Before they lock this "ammo" thread like the reloading ammo one below, some info.

Reload your own and control your own ammo supply. Easiest reload I have found yet for any 9mm Glock.

*Brass= my own fired brass and range pickup brass full length resized and deprimed.
*Primers= inside neck expand and prime with any WW, FC, CCI, or RP primer that is "small pistol"
*Bullets= 115 grain JHP or FMJ, 124 grain JHP or FMJ, 124 LRN (lead round nose)
*Powder= 4.1 grains Bullseye Pistol Powder with any of these three bullets.
*Normal power American level 9mm load with any of the three bullets.
*COAL= 1.100 to +0.002" in actual seating. No shorter.

I have used the 115 jacketed bullets when 124 jacketed were not readily available by the thousands. Remington Bulk from MidWayUSA in 2000s is the easiest order for good bullets.

Recently, jacketed bullets are on indeterminate backorder so I picked up a few thousand 124 grain LRN cast bullets measuring out at 0.355-6" and cast fairly hard.

They shoot to the same point of impact and as accurately as the jacketed without any leading in a M19 barrel and in a M17 barrel.

The three loads above shoot to the same zero almost and certainly close enough to never lose one outside an IPSC "A" zone center through 25 yards offhand. They also shoot to the same zero as the two guns sighted specifically for Fed147HydraShok in the M17 and for Hornady 135 Critical Duty in the M19.

Lee Carbine dies, Lyman cast iron press, powder via a RCBS Little Dandy with the rotor that throws 4.1 grains of Bullseye, #7 rotor on the RCBS chart. The fixed hole never screws up and never changes.

Think about reloading, Take control of your ammunition supply. SJ 40

Bruce M 01-27-2013 12:11

Not my favorite but I have had no issues with it.

John_NJ 01-27-2013 12:16

It should be fine for Glocks (if that's what you are shooting).

One issue I did run into at an indoor range -- they did not allow any steel case ammo. I'm sure it tainted their "free" collection of brass for reloading.

Cole125 01-27-2013 13:14

I have not had many problems shooting steel cased ammo in my Glock 19.

Unless its from a trusted source, avoid reloads.

janice6 01-27-2013 13:19

I'll take Wolf for range ammo any day. I have never had a bad experience with Wolf. Many of my local ranges will not permit it because it does require them to seperate it from the Brass.

I use:.40 cal., .45 cal., 9mm. many 1,000's of rounds over the years.

I have picked up Wolf Brass ammo recently.

chemboy 01-27-2013 13:19

I have about 10K rounds of Wolf through my G19 and older 40 and 45 cal Glocks. I had the occasional FTE malfunction with some of the 40 cal stuff, but never a bit of trouble with the 9mm and 45. Also have 2-3K rounds of Wolf 223 through a few CAR-15s-again no issues, except for the stuff being dirtier than Western made fodder.

SARDG 01-27-2013 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honey Badger (Post 19914899)
...Second, reloaded ammo, is it ok to shoot? Thanks!

Reloaded ammo is great to shoot - AS LONG AS IT IS YOUR OWN, RELOADED BY YOU. I wouldn't trust other reloaded ammo in a million years.

SCmasterblaster 01-29-2013 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SARDG (Post 19917859)
Reloaded ammo is great to shoot - AS LONG AS IT IS YOUR OWN, RELOADED BY YOU. I wouldn't trust other reloaded ammo in a million years.

AMEN! :cool:

MacChiroCtr 02-09-2013 12:39

Our range doesn't allow Wolf either. Their reasoning is that the type of metal used will ruin your gun over time.

JackMac 02-09-2013 13:14

Wolf works just fine. Just clean your Glock throughly afterwards. I have run thousands of rounds through Glocks and have been unable to detect no appreciable wear. The steel barrel is harder than the steel cased Wolf cartridges.

FLIPPER 348 02-09-2013 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacChiroCtr (Post 19967869)
Our range doesn't allow Wolf either. Their reasoning is that the type of metal used will ruin your gun over time.



They are idiots and should be ignored.


I've shot more Wolf and Tula over the years (45acp & CommieX39) than all other brands combined and it is the only brand that has not given me a FTF or any other issue.

Stock Perfection 02-09-2013 16:27

Yes. Couple thousand rounds each of 9mm and 7.62, with no failures that I can remember. I've always been told it's 'dirty' or 'cheap', but never had any problems.

SCmasterblaster 02-10-2013 12:18

Trust the reloads that you have personally and very carefully made. Never trust other reloads.


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