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TBO 12-28-2012 13:01

3 officers shot, gunman killed at N.J. police HQ
 
3 officers shot, gunman killed at N.J. police HQ

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...jured/1795665/

Ducowti 12-28-2012 13:06

Whisky Tango Foxtrot, over.

Glad the good guys won and Godspeed to the wounded officers.


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WT 12-28-2012 15:04

The shooter was a Corrections Officer. He was being processed by a female officer. When he was uncuffed he attacked and disarmed her. The other officers were in a nearby room and came to her aid.

Sad story.

cowboywannabe 12-28-2012 15:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by WT (Post 19790239)
The shooter was a Corrections Officer. He was being processed by a female officer. When he was uncuffed he attacked and disarmed her. The other officers were in a nearby room and came to her aid.

Sad story.

they process prisoners in a jail setting with their side arms on and by themselves?

WT 12-28-2012 15:47

Correction: the shooter was a civilian communications officer with the NJDOC.

(I do not know NJ procedures for processing 'guests' at the stationhouse.)

blueiron 12-28-2012 17:27

Somewhere in the Garden State, a utopian fool holding political office is probably railing to make police stations a gun-free zone.

Morris 12-28-2012 17:40

Quote:

Somewhere in the Garden State, a utopian fool holding political office is probably railing to make police stations a gun-free zone.
I'd laugh if it wasn't true . . .

Patchman 12-28-2012 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboywannabe (Post 19790269)
they process prisoners in a jail setting with their side arms on and by themselves?

Somebody got a little sloppy? :dunno:

All in all, outcome was acceptable.

TBO 12-28-2012 22:04

Female Officer overpowered by a suspect, gun taken/used by suspect.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/28...olice-station/

Vigilant 12-28-2012 22:48

No retention holster?

I too am amazed that they apparently allowed weapons inside the booking area. Would love to have some more info on this.

Sharkey 12-28-2012 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueiron (Post 19790714)
Somewhere in the Garden State, a utopian fool holding political office is probably railing to make police stations a gun-free zone.


If police were unarmed, this could have been avoided. :whistling:

Yikes. Glad the guy got what he deserved. Kinda strange she was armed during the book in process?

Morris 12-28-2012 23:46

Not entirely clear. For example, our lock boxes share the same common space as the bathroom and the interview room. Small space, too. So, if you are securing your firearms in the lockboxes, you should be locking the suspect in the interview room for a couple of minutes. After one in custody tried a gun grab on me (after I had locked up my handguns - and in behind the back handcuffs), I made sure suspects/arrestees stayed in the interview room.

xmanhockey7 12-29-2012 02:30

A liberal friend of mine posted this story to show that more guns is not the answer. When I pointed out the fact that it was a gun that stopped the guy he said a taser could have been used instead.

Deployment Solu 12-29-2012 04:25

Yeah, lock boxes/weapons lockers were OUTSIDE the booking area. No guns in Booking.
Left once or twice in a hurry on a hot call and almost left the jail with a Folger Adams key snapped into my holster instead of my Glock!!! I said "almost".

cowboywannabe 12-29-2012 05:25

toss the keys to your cruiser in with your gun, you cant leave without.

Officer X 12-29-2012 08:27

We have lockboxes in the salleyport at the entrance door to the cellblock/processing area and also at the entrance from the report writing room to the cellblock. Policy is to secure your firearm before removing the prisoner from the car to bring them inside or or at the other one before entering the cellblock to help with processing.

There are signs posted at each door " No firearms, ammunition, OC spray, knives or batons allowed in cellblock". Most supervisors will give some leeway with OC. Guys have been written up for being forgetful about this.

Officer X 12-29-2012 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboywannabe (Post 19792531)
toss the keys to your cruiser in with your gun, you cant leave without.

Exactly

I would always lock my car keys in the lockbox with my gun and put the box key on my belt.

Stevekozak 12-29-2012 08:49

Sounds like some sloppy procedural work. It is curious that the officer he took the gun from only got shot in the foot. I am guessing in the actual process of the gun grab?

merlynusn 12-29-2012 09:06

We don't process our prisoners in our offices, only the jail. But we put them into interview rooms. I always shackle them to the floor first, then remove the handcuffs, while bladed away.

4949shooter 12-29-2012 10:56

This should not have happened.


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