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FLAWLS1 11-28-2012 02:05

Ed Brown, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat
 
Anyone here own one of these makes? I may sell a few things to get one. I like the CQB, CQB Elite, Kobra Carry, GRP, Talon, T3's. If you have experience with these what brand would you say is better made?

TTM65 11-28-2012 02:24

I will probably start an argument here but for what they are I think the Brown and Wilson are overpriced. Some of the nighthawk are not bad for the money.

spikedzombies 11-28-2012 02:41

None of the above, your paying for the name and prestige. You can find just as good or better shooters for les..



"Sent Via Time Traveling Blue Police Box"

glock2740 11-28-2012 04:45

I own all of the above mentioned, as well as few others, and will say that for the money and quality, I would say that Guncrafter makes THE best semi-custom 1911 for the money out there these days.

glock2740 11-28-2012 04:47

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Originally Posted by spikedzombies (Post 19676827)
None of the above, your paying for the name and prestige. You can find just as good or better shooters for les..

By reading your post, are you suggesting a Baer?:dunno:

glock2740 11-28-2012 04:49

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Originally Posted by FLAWLS1 (Post 19676806)
Anyone here own one of these makes? I may sell a few things to get one. I like the CQB, CQB Elite, Kobra Carry, GRP, Talon, T3's. If you have experience with these what brand would you say is better made?

You're kinda all over the place in those choices. Do you want a fullsized 1911 or a Commander or a CCO?:dunno:

faawrenchbndr 11-28-2012 05:22

Of the three,........the Brown is the better pistol.
However, check into Guncrafter Industries.

jdw174 11-28-2012 05:31

If the NightHawk Custom "Richard Heinie Signature Series" are anywhere near as good as what Dick Heinie built, then I'd say they're worth every penny. I had two of Dick's custom .45's, and they totally outshown anything else on the market. Sadly, most of today's creations are just "slightly" out of my price range.

HexHead 11-28-2012 05:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikedzombies (Post 19676827)
None of the above, your paying for the name and prestige. You can find just as good or better shooters for les..

Do you own any of the above?

spikedzombies 11-28-2012 06:19

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Originally Posted by HexHead (Post 19677007)
Do you own any of the above?

Own no, shot and handled yes. To me they don't shoot any different than a high quality colt or custom gun. But what do I know.



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ca survivor 11-28-2012 06:55

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Originally Posted by glock2740 (Post 19676914)
By reading your post, are you suggesting a Baer?:dunno:

I see what you did here. :rofl:

DustyJacket 11-28-2012 07:03

I own a Wilson Combat.
I had no wish for one, but some SOB put one in my hand. The action was like glass; the balance perfect; the trigger was sweet.

So I ordered a Bill Wilson Carry with 2 upgrades. It is a sweet gun.

Worth it? I don't know, but I like it.

Here is mine:
http://www.dustyjacket.com/shooting/bwc-2.jpg

http://www.dustyjacket.com/shooting/bwc-1.jpg

MD357 11-28-2012 07:33

Wilson as of lately is disappointing with all the price increases to ME, you're just better off going full custom for $3-4K+. That being said, Wilson Combat is the best in terms of building you anything you want and using parts THEY make including their own frames. Nighthawk is a shadow of what it used to be, personally, I'm not a fan when there are several others to consider. Browns are pretty and well made, have a friend that has 20K through his in the last couple years. Baer is still the best deal going on this "tier" of 1911s but you're not gonna get much bling, if you're a shooter then you won't care.

glock2740 11-28-2012 07:39

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Originally Posted by spikedzombies (Post 19677058)
Own no, shot and handled yes. To me they don't shoot any different than a high quality colt or custom gun. But what do I know.

What's a "high quality Colt"? :dunno:I have a complete custom Colt Commander that the only thing left about it that's Colt, is the slide and frame, which were re-fit. I consider that a "high quality Colt". But it's also a total custom Colt too, hardchromed by Virgil Tripp.

Pictured here with my hardchromed Guncrafter No Name Commander
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...11/Guns027.jpg


http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...11/Guns026.jpg

fnfalman 11-28-2012 07:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikedzombies (Post 19677058)
Own no, shot and handled yes. To me they don't shoot any different than a high quality colt or custom gun. But what do I know.



"Sent Via Time Traveling Blue Police Box"

Oh no, you didn't?!!

DRJ1911 11-28-2012 08:04

I have a CQB Elite and love it. I have shot baers but no browns or guncrafters but if I were buying now I would look very closely at Guncrafter. I really like what I am seeing with their work.

Doyle

BigDeeeeeeee 11-28-2012 08:57

Guncrafter or SACS.

HexHead 11-28-2012 09:15

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Originally Posted by MD357 (Post 19677228)
Nighthawk is a shadow of what it used to be, personally, I'm not a fan when there are several others to consider.

I can't speak to what they're building now, my bobtail Talon II is from 2008. I couldn't ask for anything more in terms of craftsmanship or accuracy. Mine was built to order, direct from NHC.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...DSC_0022-2.jpg

I will say I'm not impressed with some of the models on their website recently.

38 Super Fan 11-28-2012 10:25

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Originally Posted by BigDeeeeeeee (Post 19677472)
Guncrafter or SACS.

That's where I'd probably go, or a Baer because of the value. I like Wilsons, but agree that their pricing is disappointing, and I'd say the same of NH. I like my Brown EE a lot, but I bought it used, I couldn't see myself shelling out the current new price on one.

Zombie Steve 11-28-2012 11:48

I like Wilsons a lot, I like Baer a lot... love Brown. Carry and compete with a Special Forces model.

Not as pretty as it once was... some holster wear, pretty much says "Special Force" now :supergrin:, but it shoots great and is reliable and predictable as you could hope for.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x214/sbecht/EB.jpg

SpringerTGO 11-28-2012 15:04

I own a Nighthawk T3. It arrived with a slide stop problem, and the ambi safety was not what the sales rep told me (multiple times) it would be. They wouldn't fix the ambi safety, and accused me of lying about what the rep told me. I had to pay shipping to Nighthawk to get the slide stop fixed. They made a big deal over the fact they would pay shipping back. I would never touch one of their products again. Considering that part of the price of a "high end 1911 is service, the are overpriced, unreliable out of the box, and have piss poor service.

I also own a Springfield Custom (TGO 1) and I would rate it's accuracy and reliability as good or better than anything near it in price. I had the same ambi safety problem with it (that's how I knew to address that with Nighthawk when I placed the order) and they not only paid shipping both ways, they bought a Bullet Proof safety from Wilson and still got the TGO back to me the same week.

shooter1234 11-28-2012 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLAWLS1 (Post 19676806)
Anyone here own one of these makes? I may sell a few things to get one. I like the CQB, CQB Elite, Kobra Carry, GRP, Talon, T3's. If you have experience with these what brand would you say is better made?

I think the Springfield that's a third of the price is the better made out of the three.

FLAWLS1 11-28-2012 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by shooter1234 (Post 19678651)
I think the Springfield that's a third of the price is the better made out of the three.

I have a Springfield TRP and I LOVE IT! The slight to frame fit is super tight and shoots awesome.

glock2740 11-28-2012 16:44

I've got 3 TRP's and while great for their price, they are certainly NOT the equal of the semi-customs mentioned above.

bac1023 11-28-2012 18:07

Its hard to say. I would put Springfield Custom or Guncrafter above those you mentioned, other than the Wilson Super Grade.


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