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Pier23 11-10-2012 21:06

Is the Skyfall PPK available to the public
 
Just saw "Skyfall" and fell in love with the PPK. Taint nuthin' like the PPK/S I have...

Is the Skyfall model available to the general public?

watsoncb 11-11-2012 18:36

Of course.... Here is the link: http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...category=43326

But! PPKs are not all that fun to shoot. They then to bite the top of your hand due to the slide cutting.

ca survivor 11-12-2012 08:48

I have a PPKs, but there are much better choices now days, lighter and in 9mm in about the same size.

cowboy1964 11-12-2012 10:07

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Originally Posted by ca survivor (Post 19622478)
I have a PPKs, but there are much better choices now days, lighter and in 9mm in about the same size.

That's not the point.

Pier23 11-12-2012 18:37

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Originally Posted by watsoncb (Post 19620661)
Of course.... Here is the link: http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...category=43326

But! PPKs are not all that fun to shoot. They then to bite the top of your hand due to the slide cutting.

Hmmm...when I go there, I get the general PPK offerings...didnt see Skyfall....

paulbow 11-12-2012 18:45

I'd be shocked if Walther made a Skyfall edition PPK. Most movie guns are one off customs.

Pier23 11-12-2012 18:48

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Originally Posted by cowboy1964 (Post 19622696)
That's not the point.

!!!!!

True, that is NOT the point!

Yeah, i have the Sig P232 which is what the PPK should be, and the Kahr .380, and the Kahr K9....but none of them are the PPK.

Yes, it is a tacky SmithWalther, yes it has the gaudiest Walther logo stamped on the slide, yes it took me three tries to get one that fired reliably...yes, yes, yes...but it is a more or less PPK/S with "an impact like a brick through a glass window..."

Now rereading the Bond series from gugle to zach, I am reminded that Bond's piece was a .32... Go figure. But, Major Boothroyd was the world's formost small arms expert, or M would not have had him ...so what do I know?

AlexHassin 11-12-2012 18:57

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Originally Posted by Pier23 (Post 19624537)
!!!!!

True, that is NOT the point!

Yeah, i have the Sig P232 which is what the PPK should be, and the Kahr .380, and the Kahr K9....but none of them are the PPK.

Yes, it is a tacky SmithWalther, yes it has the gaudiest Walther logo stamped on the slide, yes it took me three tries to get one that fired reliably...yes, yes, yes...but it is a more or less PPK/S with "an impact like a brick through a glass window..."

Now rereading the Bond series from gugle to zach, I am reminded that Bond's piece was a .32... Go figure. But, Major Boothroyd was the world's formost small arms expert, or M would not have had him ...so what do I know?

he use to use a 25ACP, so a .32 is a step up.
just saw the trailer on tv where Q mentioned it was 9 mm short. so i guess he upgraded that too.

ReyFufuRulesAll 11-13-2012 09:58

I upgraded mine with Pachmayr grips, and it no longer bites or snaps. Also, never had a jam outside of the first few hundred rounds while it was being broken in. Also, the fact that it is a heavier gun with a lighter round makes it easier to shoot accurately.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...l/100_1310.jpg

4Rules 11-13-2012 10:57

Heavy trigger (with a capital-H), heavy weight, heavy recoil for caliber, sharp edges, low capacity, tiny sights, and a slide mounted "safety" decocker. You really have to own one to understand why they're obsolete.

No thanks.

Gary1911A1 11-13-2012 15:11

I have shot the PP introduced in 1929 in .32 and the recoil was a lot more manageable.

Pier23 11-13-2012 19:15

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Originally Posted by 4Rules (Post 19626700)
Heavy trigger (with a capital-H), heavy weight, heavy recoil for caliber, sharp edges, low capacity, tiny sights, and a slide mounted "safety" decocker. You really have to own one to understand why they're obsolete.

No thanks.

For ME the PPK is spot-on accurate for its intended range. I enjoy it despite its now...uh, old-school attributes.
I have not had an issue with bite, and in a land of polymer, an island of steel is refreshing.

Not for everyone, but it remains a beautifully-designed firearm, if Smith wouldn't trash it with its gawd-awful brand stamp.

ReyFufuRulesAll 11-15-2012 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Rules (Post 19626700)
Heavy trigger (with a capital-H), heavy weight, heavy recoil for caliber, sharp edges, low capacity, tiny sights, and a slide mounted "safety" decocker. You really have to own one to understand why they're obsolete.

No thanks.

1) weight can be a plus in regards to shooting accurately, and it's steel. Steel tends to weigh more than plastic.
2) i admit, straight out of the box, the recoil is a bit higher than expected. Throw some Pachmayrs on it and it's GTG.
3) low capacity: not for a single-stack. That makes it thinner.
4) sharp edges: so?
5) tiny sights: all pocket pistols have tiny sights.
6) slide safety: i will have to agree 100% here. I hate that damn thing.

So no, it is not a perfect gun, and yes, parts of it are indeed obsolete. However, they are no more obsolete than the 1911.

Pier23 11-15-2012 20:08

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Originally Posted by ReyFufuRulesAll (Post 19634425)
1) weight can be a plus in regards to shooting accurately, and it's steel. Steel tends to weigh more than plastic.
2) i admit, straight out of the box, the recoil is a bit higher than expected. Throw some Pachmayrs on it and it's GTG.
3) low capacity: not for a single-stack. That makes it thinner.
4) sharp edges: so?
5) tiny sights: all pocket pistols have tiny sights.
6) slide safety: i will have to agree 100% here. I hate that damn thing.

So no, it is not a perfect gun, and yes, parts of it are indeed obsolete. However, they are no more obsolete than the 1911.

It has one of the most elegant take-down systems out there, and it remains a beautifully-designed piece, if you can overlook the SmithWalther branding on the slide.

cola490 11-15-2012 20:35

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Originally Posted by watsoncb (Post 19620661)
Of course.... Here is the link: http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...category=43326

But! PPKs are not all that fun to shoot. They then to bite the top of your hand due to the slide cutting.

The PPK/S has a larger tail, that eliminates the slide bite for me.

ksmedman 11-15-2012 20:48

I like the styling too, but I'd suggest just buying a Bersa.
Same basic thing, half the cost. May be more reliable too.

4Rules 11-15-2012 22:19

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Originally Posted by Pier23 (Post 19636117)
It has one of the most elegant take-down systems out there, and it remains a beautifully-designed piece, if you can overlook the SmithWalther branding on the slide.

:upeyes: What is this, a fashion show?

James Bond should be carrying a real sidearm, either a PPQ, a P30, or a G19.

Pier23 11-16-2012 18:33

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Originally Posted by cola490 (Post 19636198)
The PPK/S has a larger tail, that eliminates the slide bite for me.

Well, I admit I have not played with the PPK, just the PPK/S...and I dont find that difficult to shoot.

Pier23 11-16-2012 18:36

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Originally Posted by ksmedman (Post 19636243)
I like the styling too, but I'd suggest just buying a Bersa.
Same basic thing, half the cost. May be more reliable too.

Hmmm....had not considered the Bersa.... Have the PPK/S and the Sig 232...what is one more ?

Pier23 11-16-2012 18:52

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Originally Posted by 4Rules (Post 19636535)
:upeyes: What is this, a fashion show?

James Bond should be carrying a real sidearm, either a PPQ, a P30, or a G19.

There are a handful of weapons that stand alone as works of art. In this I place the PPK, Luger, Beretta 9000S, the Beretta 70S, Sig 232...I would even toss in the AK47 simply because it is too ugly not to be admired. Mauser HSc is in their too.

Now, if you read the books, The number of times Bond kills someone with either the Beretta .25 or the PPK is vanishingly small.

The arch villians are always done in by other means. Dr. No was buried in guano, Mr. Big was eaten by baracuda, Hugo Drax was taken out by his own Moonraker in a nuclear explosion. The weapon that earned him his OO status was a Remington 30-30 he used to assassinate a Japanese spy.


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