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Yankee2718 11-03-2012 15:09

Variable Scope
 
I might be buying a new scope in the next few days. I'm looking at a Burris Full Field 2E1, a Nikon Prostaff, Bushnell Trophy XLT, and a Redfield Revenge. All are 3-9x40 scopes. I've looked at all except the Redfield. I'm leaning towards the Burris.

Looking for user reviews and opinions. Thanks.


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1smoothredneck 11-03-2012 20:39

Redfield is now owned by leupold. Made in USA. The products I've seen are nice. Several friends and I have Nikon Prostaff models, and we are all very happy with them. Crisp, clear glass for the $. No experience with Burris.

DJ Niner 11-03-2012 22:58

I have a Burris Fullfield E1 (not a Fullfield II; I haven't seen a FFII E1, just the Fullfields). Mine is a 2-7x, been using it on a general-purpose AR with no problems. Love the E1 Ballistic Plex reticle for longer-range targets.

It's not too heavy, but it IS rather large and bulky, with the adjustment covers/caps being larger than really needed, IMO. If sleek is what you seek, this probably ain't it.

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Yankee2718 11-04-2012 09:19

Any one use a Nikon Monarch? Thanks for the input.

Yankee2718 11-04-2012 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1smoothredneck (Post 19588385)
Redfield is now owned by leupold. Made in USA. The products I've seen are nice. Several friends and I have Nikon Prostaff models, and we are all very happy with them. Crisp, clear glass for the $. No experience with Burris.

I wanna say I read somewhere that redfield glass was made in the Philippines. I could be wrong.

Magnum 357 11-04-2012 11:09

Two things you did not say:

1) Are they Mil/Mil, MOA/MOA or Mil/MOA?

2) Are they first focal plane or second focal plane?

Important things to consider.

Yankee2718 11-04-2012 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnum 357 (Post 19590001)
Two things you did not say:

1) Are they Mil/Mil, MOA/MOA or Mil/MOA?

2) Are they first focal plane or second focal plane?

Important things to consider.

I'm sure they are all second focal plane scopes. Pretty sure they are all MOA adjustments. None of them use a Mil Dot reticle.

HexHead 11-04-2012 17:31

Why not consider a Leupold Rifleman or VX-I?

HexHead 11-04-2012 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankee2718 (Post 19589790)
I wanna say I read somewhere that redfield glass was made in the Philippines. I could be wrong.

I saw that somewhere last night too. I'm also shopping for a scope.

Some vendor's site I was on. They listed country of origin for their items. Redfield was listed as Phillippines. At least it wasn't China, like most.

Yankee2718 11-04-2012 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by HexHead (Post 19591203)
Why not consider a Leupold Rifleman or VX-I?

The Burris E1 blew the VX-1 away, IMO.

The Redfield Revolution is made in the USA. The Revenge line is made entirely in the Philippines.

1smoothredneck 11-06-2012 16:37

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Originally Posted by Yankee2718 (Post 19589653)
Any one use a Nikon Monarch? Thanks for the input.

Yes. I have a 3-9 X 40 and a 2-7 X32. The glass is fantastic. I have no experience with tactical scopes. My time in service was still mostly iron sights, and I personally just like a crisp, clear, bright image with an aiming point uncluttered with dots or dashes or rings; and I generally lean toward lower power glass than most, but then I don't shoot much past 300 yards, ever. Good luck.

Yankee2718 11-19-2012 12:34

Update:

Just went to Dick's Sporting Goods and picked up the last Burris Fullfield E1 model then had. 3-9x40 for $149.99 out the door. I can't believe they had it marks down. It was listed at 199.99 and when it rang up it came up 159.99. I had a $10 off coupon that made it $150, plus the $50 mail in rebate. I just got a Burris E1 for $100. I got lucky! It's going on a Savage M111 in .30-06.

DJ Niner 11-20-2012 02:18

Smokin' deal! Once you get it all put together, let us know how that combo shoots!

Paul_J 11-20-2012 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankee2718 (Post 19589790)
I wanna say I read somewhere that redfield glass was made in the Philippines. I could be wrong.

Just a comment to clear the confusion. The Revolution line of Redfield scopes are made in the US. The Revenge series looks to be made off shore. Luepold offers their lifetime warranty on Redfield Revolution series scopes.

That Burris FF E1 sounds like a deal and as mentioned let us know how you like it after you get some use out of it. I'm in the market for a 3-9x40.

Yankee2718 11-26-2012 19:56

I haven't been able to shoot with it yet, but using it as a telescope to look at a shopping strip mall about 1000 yards away, it is clear and bright. The reticle focus is crisp and I didn't notice any apparent parallax. Hopefully I'll get to shoot with it in the next few days.

Clutch Cargo 12-07-2012 02:33

My AR normally has an Eotech 512 mounted on a quick detach mount. When time for thinning the hog population, I've got an vintage Redfield lo-pro Wideview 3-9 sitting in a quick detach mount on my AR. For about $150 you get a made in Denver scope with great glass and the wideview feature.

Running hogs and 'yotes stay in view due to the super-wide field of view offererd by the scope. I also like how the lo-pro keeps my AR system compact.

Low light shooting? I've got a vintage Kahles Super 6S2 that came on a Remington 700 ADL in .243. The Remmy action is being turned into a long range shooter. That 6x Kahles with it's 26mm tube is almost like having night vision. If I had the cash, it would go great on a suppressed .300 Whisper for a SERIOUS hog rig.

I love the vintage stuff. I just picked up a new-in-the-box vintage Kahles 3-9x42 scope. I have no use for it now, but it will be great trade material for future long range glass.

Don't discount the quality older stuff.


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