Glock Talk

Glock Talk (http://glocktalk.com/forums/index.php)
-   Carry Issues (http://glocktalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=21)
-   -   Carry concealed on military base?????? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1450522)

glock361963 10-31-2012 19:40

Carry concealed on military base??????
 
If visiting or picking up someone on a military base.In a state that accepts your ccw.What do you do?Surrender carry gun to security at main gate?Store gun unloaded and locked in a case?

PettyOfficer 10-31-2012 19:49

Leave it at home or leave it in the trunk and drive to the security office to ask: do not attempt to drive into the gate with a firearm in your vehicle.

The security office is usually accessible without entering the base proper and you can enter and ask (unarmed).

Security gate personnel do not have the resources to secure your firearm and by that point you are on base and it can get more complicated.

PettyOfficer 10-31-2012 19:51

Or just call ahead and ask... Easy.

skew12 10-31-2012 19:53

These guys are right. Simply finding ammo in your vehicle can get you in trouble on some bases.

Breadman03 10-31-2012 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by PettyOfficer (Post 19577099)
Or just call ahead and ask... Easy.

That is what I did at Tobyhanna. They wanted me to approach with my pistol cleared and not in my hands. Just be sure to call ahead and get solid info.

concretefuzzynuts 10-31-2012 20:41

This is a definite NO. Don't even chance it.

Glockrunner 11-01-2012 04:23

It is strictly up to the commanding officer of the base, they set the procedures and guidelines.

Call ahead and ask. Heed what they say for it is a felony to do otherwise.

Gallium 11-01-2012 05:30

Thanks for at least asking 1st, instead of doing something rash.

No, as others have stated, it is not done.

Clutch Cargo 11-01-2012 06:17

Lots of dead soldiers on Ft Hood because THEY are not even allowed to carry.

PettyOfficer 11-01-2012 06:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clutch Cargo (Post 19578242)
Lots of dead soldiers on Ft Hood because THEY are not even allowed to carry.

This is a little inflammatory: any CONUS base I've ever been on during my tour didn't allow unrestricted carry: only security personnel and those who've taken the measures to be authorized in advance bring their personal firearms on base directly to an armory for storage, and vice versa.

Jeremy_K 11-01-2012 06:59

Most places if you notify the gate guard he can send a car to escort you to the armory. They'll keep it at the armory for the duration of your stay.

SCmasterblaster 11-01-2012 14:23

I'd definitely call ahead. My local VA hospital has a noticeable sign at every entrance banning all weapons. Every time I go there for an appointment, I feel naked.

Gunnut 45/454 11-01-2012 16:43

Fedral law does not recognize your right to carry on Federal Property. Unload and place in a carry case or trunk. Some bases and or Commanders have different -more restrictive rules!:whistling:

Arc Angel 11-01-2012 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breadman03 (Post 19577283)
That is what I did at Tobyhanna. They wanted me to approach with my pistol cleared and not in my hands. Just be sure to call ahead and get solid info.

You carried a weapon on Depot property? Then you're either associated with Depot Security, or some other branch of the U.S. Military that allows you to go armed.

Civilian weapons on Tobyhanna Army Depot property are strictly forbidden.

http://www.tobyhanna.army.mil/about/visitor.html

Furthermore, at Fort Indiantown Gap you and your gun wouldn't get past the Main Gate. Since 9/11 there are no civilian weapons on any Pennsylvania military base that I know of.

owl6roll 11-01-2012 17:41

<~~~~wouldn't even think about! Tried to ride a motorcyle onto an AFB, for an air show, won't do that again, ever!

Ammo9000 11-01-2012 20:39

Depends on the base. I'm stationed in ND and you can drive on base with a pistol but you CANNOT conceal carry! you must have the gun stored in the furthermost rear compartment of the vehicle, unloaded, and ammo stored in a different compartment of your vehicle. also ammo cannot be in the magazine when stored.

every base is different tho. i go hunting almost every day after work and have my shotgun in my vehicle at all times. its in plain view of security forces when going through the gate and never had a problem.

best bet it don't even attempt to carry on base before you know the rules unless you want an M4 pressed against your skull and face in the mud!!!

what base do you plan on visiting?

Breadman03 11-01-2012 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arc Angel (Post 19580443)
You carried a weapon on Depot property? Then you're either associated with Depot Security, or some other branch of the U.S. Military that allows you to go armed.

Civilian weapons on Tobyhanna Army Depot property are strictly forbidden.

http://www.tobyhanna.army.mil/about/visitor.html

Furthermore, at Fort Indiantown Gap you and your gun wouldn't get past the Main Gate. Since 9/11 there are no civilian weapons on any Pennsylvania military base that I know of.

I checked my pistol in a locker at the gate. They wanted me to approach with the pistol already cleared and sitting on the seat. I received a property receipt and just picked my pistol up on the way out, 2-3 times a week for 6 years.

My advice is to call ahead and get your information direct from the base.

Clutch Cargo 11-01-2012 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by PettyOfficer (Post 19578320)
This is a little inflammatory: any CONUS base I've ever been on during my tour didn't allow unrestricted carry: only security personnel and those who've taken the measures to be authorized in advance bring their personal firearms on base directly to an armory for storage, and vice versa.

It's NOT in the least inflammatory. I had friends that were MURDERED because they could not carry to defend themselves. I KNOW it's that way on evey CONUS base, and THE RULE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED! Don't EVEN try and go there.

I was never allowed to carry unless tending the deployment armory. ALL other times, as with the case of my murdered friends, I WAS NOT allowed to carry for my own protection.

SCmasterblaster 11-02-2012 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunnut 45/454 (Post 19580396)
Fedral law does not recognize your right to carry on Federal Property. Unload and place in a carry case or trunk. Some bases and or Commanders have different -more restrictive rules!:whistling:

That is correct. The VA Hospital here in Vermont doesn't allow weapons at all.

teleblaster 11-02-2012 10:45

Ft. Sam Houston in San Antonio has no firearms signs. If you live in town I guess it is not too bad, but if you come from out of town, as many do, you either drive down unarmed, or break the law to visit your relative's grave.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 23:12.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2013, Glock Talk, All Rights Reserved.