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glockman66 10-28-2012 17:48

Black Gun Owners: Rock and a Hard Place
 
Many naive and uninformed lawabiding citizens(both black & white) have succumb to the misinformation, propaganda, lies, etc. of the left when it comes guns, gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment. There are both black and white law abiding citizens that cringe and put their head in the sand when it comes to the 2nd Amendment and gun ownership. This article points out why some black law abiding citizens, that want their right to self defense/home protection, have more biases, obstacles, etc. to overcome than others. The sources of these problems might suprise you.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/24/bl...-a-hard-place/
Black Gun Owners: Rock and a Hard Place
By Kenn Blanchard
4:42 PM 10/24/2012

.."One of the unwritten rules of becoming a gun owner is that you have to also become an ambassador for the cause. Itís not a conservative, liberal, Republican, Democrat, black or white thing. Itís a rights thing."

CanMan 10-28-2012 20:11

^ +1

Gun control as we know it today is insidious and pervasive, affecting our society as a whole.


http://www.guncite.com/journals/economic.html

Gpruitt54 10-28-2012 20:26

I think that the bigger misconception is that if you a gun rights advocate, you are also white, male, and republican.

You can be Black, Male, and Democrat and still be a gun rights advocate.

Gunnut 45/454 10-29-2012 09:20

Gpruitt54
If thats your case then why do you allow your party to be the anti 2nd party? Why do you elect those that would take the 2nd out of the COTUS if they could? Why do you support a POTUS that would remove every gun from every household if he could? Vote the way you live. STOP supporting the party that would remove your rights!:steamed:

glockman66 10-29-2012 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpruitt54 (Post 19566137)
I think that the bigger misconception is that if you a gun rights advocate, you are also white, male, and republican.

You can be Black(OK), Male(OK), and Democrat(Don't Think So) and still be a gun rights advocate.
FIXED IT FOR YOU

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-04-18.html
NEGROES WITH GUNS
ANN COULTER
April 18, 2012

glockman66 10-29-2012 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpruitt54 (Post 19566137)
I think that the bigger misconception is that if you a gun rights advocate, you are also white, male, and republican.

You can be Black(OK), Male(OK), and Democrat(Don't Think So) and still be a gun rights advocate.
FIXED IT FOR YOU


http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13681

Political Hay
Democrats--The Missing Years
By Jeffrey Lord
Published 8/12/2008 12:08:03 AM

Missing: 52 years of history.

Ignored: The other 113 years that take the Democrats from their birth in 1800 to 1965.

glockman66 10-29-2012 11:03

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Originally Posted by Gunnut 45/454 (Post 19567275)
Gpruitt54
If thats your case then why do you allow your party to be the anti 2nd party? Why do you elect those that would take the 2nd out of the COTUS if they could? Why do you support a POTUS that would remove every gun from every household if he could? Vote the way you live. STOP supporting the party that would remove your rights!:steamed:

Gunnut 45/454 +10

AlexHassin 10-29-2012 11:34

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Originally Posted by Gunnut 45/454 (Post 19567275)
Gpruitt54
If thats your case then why do you allow your party to be the anti 2nd party? Why do you elect those that would take the 2nd out of the COTUS if they could? Why do you support a POTUS that would remove every gun from every household if he could? Vote the way you live. STOP supporting the party that would remove your rights!:steamed:

maybe because the other issues matter to them too?
most people are not single issue voters, hell i know i am not.

Gpruitt54 10-29-2012 19:18

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Originally Posted by AlexHassin (Post 19567646)
maybe because the other issues matter to them too?
most people are not single issue voters, hell i know i am not.

Dude, you took the words out of my mouth. There are many issues. Yes, you are right, I am not a single issue supporter or voter.

Most importantly, the cat is out of the bag.
You cannot unscramble an egg.
No one is going to collect all the guns for Americans. There are just to many guns out there. So, I am not worried about that happening.

More importantly, Look at what it takes to add or remove something from the Constitution. It takes a 2/3 majority. It's a nearly an impossible task. The 2nd Amendment to the constitution is not going anywhere.

Jerry 10-29-2012 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpruitt54 (Post 19566137)
I think that the bigger misconception is that if you a gun rights advocate, you are also white, male, and republican.

You can be Black, Male, and Democrat and still be a gun rights advocate.

It doesn't matter if a person is Black, White or Purple. If they are a gun adviocate and are a Democrat they are also an idiot. One can be one or the other but to claime to be both is sheer stupidity.

Gpruitt54 10-29-2012 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunnut 45/454 (Post 19567275)
Gpruitt54
If thats your case then why do you allow your party to be the anti 2nd party? Why do you elect those that would take the 2nd out of the COTUS if they could? Why do you support a POTUS that would remove every gun from every household if he could? Vote the way you live. STOP supporting the party that would remove your rights!:steamed:

Constitution, 2/3 majority, No president can, by him self, change the constitution. Quit all the hand wringing and being a-scared and stuff. Our guns are not going to be taken from us.

While on the subject. I think (sorry, I mean I know) under the Bush administration, Americans guns were in fact confiscated from hundreds of the people During Hurricane Catrina. Did you abandon the Republican party for that anti-gun, gun grabbing episode? I believe many of those people (if not all of them) have still NOT gotten their guns back.

There is a documented case of violations of gun rights that occurred under a Republican administration. Be careful then you through stones.

Gpruitt54 10-29-2012 19:39

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Originally Posted by Jerry (Post 19569328)
It doesn't matter if a person is Black, White or Purple. If they are a gun adviocate and are a Democrat they are also an idiot. One can be one or the other but to claime to be both is sheer stupidity.

Politics as in life are full of choices. Some good, some bad, and some in the middle. Some people are single issue voters, as if nothing else exists except the single issue. But life is not that simple and none of us should be that simple-minded, less ye be lead by the noise by a clever turn of a phrase.

Jerry 10-30-2012 12:42

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Originally Posted by Gpruitt54 (Post 19569385)
Politics as in life are full of choices. Some good, some bad, and some in the middle. Some people are single issue voters, as if nothing else exists except the single issue. But life is not that simple and none of us should be that simple-minded, less ye be lead by the noise by a clever turn of a phrase.

Let me see here. The Demoratic party, for the most part, has created social programs that take form the working man/woman and give to the week and lazy. They have have also, at every turn tried to take the one part of the Constitution the allows The People to protect themselves.

Now that's not to say the Republicant's are perfect.

So people are left with the choice. Demorat = socialists = gun control. Or other candidates, be they Remublicant, Independent or other the support the working people and the Constitution.

A gun enthusiast that supports the Demorats is either a socialist at heart that also wants to see others gun rights taken or just a plain idiot. I've found over the years they are mostly idiots.

glockman66 10-30-2012 13:08

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Originally Posted by Jerry (Post 19571626)
Let me see here. The Demoratic party, for the most part, has created social programs that take form the working man/woman and give to the week and lazy. They have have also, at every turn tried to take the one part of the Constitution the allows The People to protect themselves.

Now that's not to say the Republicant's are perfect.

So people are left with the choice. Demorat = socialists = gun control. Or other candidates, be they Remublicant, Independent or other the support the working people and the Constitution.

A gun enthusiast that supports the Demorats is either a socialist at heart that also wants to see others gun rights taken or just a plain idiot. I've found over the years they are mostly idiots.


+10 Gunowners that vote democrat remind me of diabetics that say that they can eat all the the candy, cake, sugar, etc.(vote lib democrat and not take insulin) and nothing will happen to them(suffer/die from multiple diabetes/diabetic complications(lose their Constitutional Rights/Freedoms)). OBTW, I am not a one issue voter. I am Pro America, Pro Constitution, Pro 2nd Amendment, Pro Christianity, Pro Capitalism, etc. voter. I am also Anti Marxist, Anti Total Government Control Of Everything, Anti Tax/Spend the US Economy Into Total Oblivion, Anti Illegal Alien Coddling/Supporting(I Do Support LEGAL IMMIGRATION Totally), etc. voter.

Gpruitt54 10-30-2012 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry (Post 19571626)
Let me see here. The Demoratic party, for the most part, has created social programs that take form the working man/woman and give to the week and lazy. They have have also, at every turn tried to take the one part of the Constitution the allows The People to protect themselves.

Now that's not to say the Republicant's are perfect.

So people are left with the choice. Demorat = socialists = gun control. Or other candidates, be they Remublicant, Independent or other the support the working people and the Constitution.

A gun enthusiast that supports the Demorats is either a socialist at heart that also wants to see others gun rights taken or just a plain idiot. I've found over the years they are mostly idiots.

We seem to have a selectively short memory. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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If I recall during Catrina, a Bush, Republican lead administration confiscated guns by force form U.S. citizens of the New Orleans area. If I recall, those people have still yet to get their guns back from the government controlled by a Republican administration. Maybe you out to deal with that and what that means?<o:p></o:p>
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So, what kind of point are you fumbling to make here? Federal funds started the internet we are using now, built the interstate highway system, regulate the air traffic system over our heads, are coming to the aid of those folks in the east coast, send armies to fight and protect this country, regulate the safety and standards of the electrical grid we are using to power the PC we are using to send these forum posts. so on and so forth. So, what in your opinion, is wrong with that. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
What would you have? Should we grab a hand full of yahoos off the street with their personal weapons and send them to war? Should we corral a bunch of our buddies and have them build and maintain streets and roads. Should we get volunteers to build and monitor our air traffic control system? Should we get you and your friends to rebuild the east coast and the entire infrastructure out there? <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Yeah, sometimes we donít like what the fed does with our tax money, but then look at the alternative. We donít get everything we want. There are things in this world that are bigger than you or me, itís the country, itís the United States or America. And for all its faults, I would rather live here than any place else. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
This is one freakíin country. But, if we donít stop *****ing and start pulling in the same direction, we may get your wish, and live in chaos and disorder.

Yeah, I kind of jumped off the subject a little.

glockman66 10-30-2012 14:44

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Originally Posted by Gpruitt54 (Post 19571881)
We seem to have a selectively short memory. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
If I recall during Catrina, a Bush, Republican lead administration confiscated guns by force form U.S. citizens of the New Orleans area. If I recall, those people have still yet to get their guns back from the government controlled by a Republican administration. Maybe you out to deal with that and what that means?<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
So, what kind of point are you fumbling to make here? Federal funds started the internet we are using now, built the interstate highway system, regulate the air traffic system over our heads, are coming to the aid of those folks in the east coast, send armies to fight and protect this country, regulate the safety and standards of the electrical grid we are using to power the PC we are using to send these forum posts. so on and so forth. So, what in your opinion, is wrong with that. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
What would you have? Should we grab a hand full of yahoos off the street with their personal weapons and send them to war? Should we corral a bunch of our buddies and have them build and maintain streets and roads. Should we get volunteers to build and monitor our air traffic control system? Should we get you and your friends to rebuild the east coast and the entire infrastructure out there? <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Yeah, sometimes we don’t like what the fed does with our tax money, but then look at the alternative. We don’t get everything we want. There are things in this world that are bigger than you or me, it’s the country, it’s the United States or America. And for all its faults, I would rather live here than any place else. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
This is one freak’in country. But, if we don’t stop *****ing and start pulling in the same direction, we may get your wish, and live in chaos and disorder.

Yeah, I kind of jumped off the subject a little.

Why don't you try a sell you baloney somewhere else, it won't sell here(at least to me). It was the city of New Orleans(Nagin & company) that confiscated the guns and didn't return them to their rightful owners. I don't remember the Second Amendment Foundation or the NRA naming any Bush administration officials(Republicans) or FEMA in their lawsuit against the City New Orleans' confiscation and non-return of the firearms.


http://www.examiner.com/article/as-i...rina-rekindled
As Isaac heads toward Big Easy, memories of Katrina rekindled
Tropical Storm Isaac
August 27, 2012
By: Dave Workman


AND


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/can-...nal-emergency/
Can the Police Take Your Gun(s) During a State of Emergency?
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 8:07pm
by Jason Howerton


Edwards said it is important that gun owners know their rights, especially ahead of potential disasters like Hurricane Sandy. In 2006, then-President George W. Bush signed an executive order called the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act that strengthened individual gun rights during a national emergency."...

..."“What we saw locally was the mayor and police chief in New Orleans saying, you’re not going to be armed,” Edwards added.

The state of Louisiana also passed their own law that specifically forbids law enforcement agencies of disarming law abiding citizens."...

Jerry 10-30-2012 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpruitt54 (Post 19571881)
We seem to have a selectively short memory.
If I recall during Catrina, a Bush, Republican lead administration confiscated guns by force form U.S. citizens of the New Orleans area. If I recall, those people have still yet to get their guns back from the government controlled by a Republican

:rofl:

I won't bother replying to the rest of your post because you've just proven me right about idiocy and or stupidity. Neither the Republicans nor Bush nor the Federal government had anything to do with the firearm confiscation in New Orleans. It was the Democratic mayor Ray Nagon that ordered the confiscation. It was the Democratic appointed Chief of Police, Eddie Compass that carried out those orders and the the Demoratic governor Susan Blanco that did nothing to put a stop to it even though it was in violation of our state constitution.

Thank you for showing everyone here the Demoratic mentality. Blind ignorance!

Edit to add. You are correct about people not getting their guns back after the Demorats being ordered by the court to do so. The Demorats won't return them without proof of ownership. Of course someone that lost everything may not have proof and the stolen guns weren't cataloged as to where/who they were stolen from.

NEOH212 10-30-2012 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry (Post 19569328)
It doesn't matter if a person is Black, White or Purple. If they are a gun adviocate and are a Democrat they are also an idiot. One can be one or the other but to claim to be both is sheer stupidity.

I couldn't have said it better! :agree:

A gun owner that's a Democrat is like being a Republican and being pro-choice!

Just like Milk and Red Bull, the two don't mix! :faint:

Pure stupidity! Democrat and Pro-Gun are two things that don't belong in a sentence together period!

Being a Democrat is just plain stupid gun owner or not. Democrats, especially modern Liberal Democrats are one of the major things that's wrong with the USA in modern time and is destroying our country a little more every day.

Even if it's not the individuals themselves causing the destruction of our society, thinking, principles, rights, ect, the ideas they support are just as bad.

Like cancer, they need to be cut out of our society as they are a malevolent intruder set on doing nothing but to further their own existence without regard to the cost of doing so.

But as they say about stupid people, "No brain, no pain."

NEOH212 10-30-2012 23:00

Furthermore, Black people don't have a choice about being black, but they do have a choice to not be a Democrat.

The question is, are any of them smart enough to vote Republican? :whistling:

Jerry 10-31-2012 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEOH212 (Post 19573860)
Furthermore, Black people don't have a choice about being black, but they do have a choice to not be a Democrat.

The question is, are any of them smart enough to vote Republican? :whistling:

Some yes some no. I really like Morgan Fairchild. He's always seem to have a good head on his shoulders is a good American and didn't buy into the "someone owes me something" mentality. In fact I've heard him speaking against it. When I heard his voice in an Obomination commercial on TV I could not believe my ears. Sure makes we wonder. But there are a lot Black people that have had enough of Barrie's BS. Wife was talking to a Black woman in the store the other day. She said she and many of her friends fell for his BS the first time but they won't be voting for him this time.


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