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jutland 10-09-2012 08:49

Shooting range liability concerns and armed range masters.
 
Public range, high user volume on weekends. Outdoors, with ranges from 7-100 yards. Handgun and rifle only. Should range masters be permitted to carry sidearms, and why or why not?

RenoF250 10-09-2012 08:56

Why not? It is a range for goodness sake.

hamster 10-09-2012 09:01

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Originally Posted by jutland (Post 19500205)
Public range, high user volume on weekends. Outdoors, with ranges from 7-100 yards. Handgun and rifle only. Should range masters be permitted to carry sidearms, and why or why not?

Why not? Unless this is a Golf Driving range I can't imagine why the range masters should be the only ones unarmed.

ron59 10-09-2012 09:08

If they are vetted, then hell yes.

What if some dude comes in and starts a rampage? Boom, headshot.

Adjuster 10-09-2012 09:08

I also don't get your question. What exactly is your concern? All the gunshops, liquor stores and pawnshops I go to everyone is armed.


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badge315 10-09-2012 09:25

If you're referring to GRPC in Jacksonville, I've spoken to several of the Range Officers there. They've been threatened by ne'er-do-wells on numerous occasions while attempting to enforce the rules of the range.

Why should the ROs be the only ones who are unarmed at a shooting range?:dunno:

John Rambo 10-09-2012 09:30

Couldn't care less if they carry. I do.

jellis11 10-09-2012 09:35

Working at a place where everyone is armed except the guy in charge seems a little goofy to me.

Gallium 10-09-2012 09:43

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Originally Posted by jutland (Post 19500205)
Public range, high user volume on weekends. Outdoors, with ranges from 7-100 yards. Handgun and rifle only. Should range masters be permitted to carry sidearms, and why or why not?

If I worked on a range (and when I do) I am always armed, and I know how many steps it is to a powerful long gun + ammo (even if the long gun is unloaded).

ESPECIALLY range officers, should be armed.

bmoore 10-09-2012 10:16

This isn't really a serious question is it?

gwalchmai 10-09-2012 10:26

It's certainly one of the oddest questions I've seen posted on here.

bmoore 10-09-2012 10:33

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Originally Posted by gwalchmai (Post 19500507)
It's certainly one of the oddest questions I've seen posted on here.

Im gonna say top 3.

concretefuzzynuts 10-09-2012 10:36

Of course they should. :dunno:

Maybe there's a follow up point. If so please make it.

scccdoc 10-09-2012 10:42

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Originally Posted by jutland (Post 19500205)
Public range, high user volume on weekends. Outdoors, with ranges from 7-100 yards. Handgun and rifle only. Should range masters be permitted to carry sidearms, and why or why not?

If they don't carry, I won't shoot there............ DOC

frizz 10-09-2012 10:47

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Originally Posted by John Rambo (Post 19500352)
Couldn't care less if they carry. I do.

I get your point, but I WANT them to carry.

I wonder if the OP is looking at insurance for ranges and whether or not the insurance companies want the RO to be unarmed.

OP?

G36's Rule 10-09-2012 11:06

None of the ranges I frequent have armed personnel. Never really thought about it.

Bren 10-09-2012 11:16

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Originally Posted by RenoF250 (Post 19500228)
Why not? It is a range for goodness sake.

That's what I was thinking. A range master might not care, but having a rule that the guy in charge is the only unarmed person on he range doesn't even begin to make sense.

jutland 10-09-2012 11:21

For everyone that thinks the answer is obvious try the NSSF web page and the NRA and see if there are any risk management guidelines on the issue. If you have insurance on the range does your insurer know if rangemasters are armed, and are you covered if a shooting goes wrong. You know, NY cop shoots bad guy, hits multiple bystanders. Or, do you have unarmed rangemasters, and then have bad guy go on a rampage.

Yes, this is a risk management question.

MrGlock21 10-10-2012 02:22

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Originally Posted by jellis11 (Post 19500366)
Working at a place where everyone is armed except the guy in charge seems a little goofy to me.

Very true, and I like your wording.

Matthew Courtney 10-10-2012 03:12

My insurance does not require that I, or anyone else working at my range, be unarmed.

SLO1911Fan 10-10-2012 03:25

I know that at the range I worked at no one was allowed to open carry. We weren't officially allowed to concealed carry, but the majority of the RA's did. We had our share of crazies, drunks, and stupid people. If you're responsible for a range, the safety on the range, and the range's guns, why wouldn't you carry? I had guns pointed at me both unintentionally and intentionally more times than I can count. I would never work at a range that insisted that I be unarmed.

fx77 10-10-2012 06:27

At my public range some are armed and some not..But if concealed would I really know?

Brucev 10-10-2012 07:25

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Originally Posted by jutland (Post 19500205)
Public range, high user volume on weekends. Outdoors, with ranges from 7-100 yards. Handgun and rifle only. Should range masters be permitted to carry sidearms, and why or why not?

No. They are not there to play. They are there to do the job of running the range. As to the idea they might need to shoot someone... bull.

jutland 10-10-2012 07:29

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Originally Posted by Matthew Courtney (Post 19502822)
My insurance does not require that I, or anyone else working at my range, be unarmed.

Does your insurance know that your employees are armed, and does it have any requirements re training of employees to make sure they are qualified.

edhead35 10-10-2012 07:53

Even if the rules said I couldn't be armed as a range officer I would anyway or leave the club with such a silly rule. Just hide a small pistol.

I know some clubs have an all out ban on guns unless you are on the range due to serving alcohol, and you can't be on a range if you have consumed alcohol.

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