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TattooedGlock 10-03-2012 13:18

5.56 Hog and Deer Rounds
 
This is not a debate if the 5.56 can take hogs and deer. It can, it will, and I have; and it's legal here in Texas.

I'm just curious to hear from folks who have also hunted with thier 5.56 and what rounds they seem to like the best. I've used Green Tips, Black Hills and Winchester Boar rounds in the past but am always looking for something new and improved. I've read some good thing about Hornady's Nosler Partition Deer round.

Thoughts and photos always appreciated!

WoodenPlank 10-03-2012 13:55

Nosler Partition has a good reputation, same with the Barnes TSX loads. I'd imagine that Mk. 262 would do well, also.

Green Tip is the LAST thing I would use on any wild game.

Mayhem like Me 10-03-2012 13:57

Federal tactical Bonded softpoint .223 62 grain...

It holds up through gristle and bone.

Beware Owner 10-03-2012 14:01

Up to what size deer would you take with a 5.56?

NeverMore1701 10-03-2012 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beware Owner (Post 19481500)
Up to what size deer would you take with a 5.56?

More a function of load, platform, and distance than deer size.

I've heard some locals saying the 62gr Fusion out of a 20" barrel does great out to 200 yards, so I'm gonna give it a try this season.

The 70gr TSX also gets fantastic reviews, but it's not available locally and I'm not paying shipping for just a couple boxes.

ezdaar 10-03-2012 14:51

With 5.56, Shot placement is only thing you need to know.
Don't recall the brand or type my buddy used. but he took a 150Y shot on a doe. Hit her left shoulder blade, Blew it to ****. but she still ran 300 yards.

We found her 6 hours later ALIVE and kicking.

NeverMore1701 10-03-2012 15:05

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Originally Posted by ezdaar (Post 19481659)
With 5.56, Shot placement is only thing you need to know.
Don't recall the brand or type my buddy used. but he took a 150Y shot on a doe. Hit her left shoulder blade, Blew it to ****. but she still ran 300 yards.

We found her 6 hours later ALIVE and kicking.

Sounds like a terrible shot.

ezdaar 10-03-2012 15:10

nah, it was a great shot, his timing was off, and she stepped forward.if she hadn't stepped forward, he would have blown he heart to shreds.

faawrenchbndr 10-03-2012 15:23

Head shots,..........

bmoore 10-03-2012 15:33

I would run a 62grn pointed soft point like a core lokt or similar, or the 77grn offerings.

NeverMore1701 10-03-2012 16:08

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Originally Posted by ezdaar (Post 19481691)
nah, it was a great shot, his timing was off, and she stepped forward.if she hadn't stepped forward, he would have blown he heart to shreds.

So, it was a bad shot. That's fine, we all make 'em. Can't blame the round.

WinterWizard 10-03-2012 16:10

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Originally Posted by ezdaar (Post 19481691)
nah, it was a great shot, his timing was off, and she stepped forward.if she hadn't stepped forward, he would have blown he heart to shreds.

That's what he meant, that the shot did NOT hit the vitals. Can't blame the caliber or round for that.

K. Foster 10-03-2012 16:17

The heaviest soft point you can find.

vafish 10-03-2012 16:36

My experience on hogs with 62 gr Winchester was disappointing.

Biggest problem is little bullets that dont exit big hogs leave no blood trail to follow.

The 6.5 sweede worked much better.

On our tiny va deer the .223 would probably be fine if it were legal.

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Glockdude1 10-03-2012 16:39

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Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr (Post 19481733)
Head shots,..........

:agree:

bikerdog 10-03-2012 16:42

64 grain federal tbbc works well on deer never tried it on hogs but would imagine it would work well.

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Travclem 10-03-2012 17:36

64gr fusion and 70gr TSX handload on things I eat(deer), Hornady 75gr OTM handload on things I don.t(Hogs). Both do the job well.

cyphertext 10-03-2012 18:30

Haven't taken deer with the AR, but 62gr Silver Bear hollow point worked fine for me on hogs. No need to spend big money on bullets for those critters.

Big Bird 10-03-2012 19:20

I've shot a fair number of deer size game with Nosler partitions in various calibers and platforms. They have almost universally performed the same way. Complete penetration on classic heart/lung shots. About 15-18" penetration on more oblique shots with bones in the way.

In the few instances where I managed to recover the bullets they all expanded to about 150% of their original diameter and they all universally shed their front core and retained ~60% of their original weight. I don't consider that a failure BTW. Some people will. After all I had to recover the animal to find those bullets!

Having said that, in a 5.56 you simply need as much mass as possible. You really don't want fragmenting bullets. Its not that fragmenting bullets can't kill deer well when they are hit perfectly. They can and will. However hunting will not always present those perfect opportunities and sometime things that appear perfect when the trigger broke go to hell when you hit a branch or the animal takes a half a step etc. So you want a bullet than CAN break shoulders and femurs and keep going.

Deer are not hard to kill at the end of the day.

I don't hunt them with a 5.56 but don't judge you if you do. If I did I'd probably use a solid copper bullet like a Barnes TSX or TTX in the heavier weights (60-80 grains) and I'd keep my shots to under 200 yards particularly if you have a 16" or shorter barrel.

AK_Stick 10-03-2012 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beware Owner (Post 19481500)
Up to what size deer would you take with a 5.56?



5.56 will cleanly take caribou with a good heart/lung shot, even penetrating both shoulders, or a shoulder and spine.


It will certainly take any size, or breed of deer you're likely to encounter, so long as you place the round in the vitals.


I'd pick a heavy load like the 62-70 grain TSX and run with it.


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