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jp3975 09-19-2012 14:30

Is the Caracal C better than the Glock 19?
 
...According to this guy it is.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-vs-caracal-c/

Trying to sell my Steyr to get an F model.

DaBurna 09-19-2012 15:34

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Originally Posted by jp3975 (Post 19436373)
...According to this guy it is.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-vs-caracal-c/

Trying to sell my Steyr to get an F model.


I'm not ready to call it that just yet. I still give the nod to my G19, but I can't deny, with a good night sight. It just might replace it for some CCW use. The reason being the trigger feels soooooo much crisper and lighter. Since sending about 300 rounds down range between my Caracal C and F I now am probably not going to get a Glock 17 and start carrying the Caracal C more over the G19 in a couple of months.

Aftermarket support is all that the Caracal lacks, holster wise. It fits all the existing Glock hosters as well.... :supergrin:

Viper 1 09-19-2012 15:49

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Originally Posted by jp3975 (Post 19436373)
...According to this guy it is.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-vs-caracal-c/

Trying to sell my Steyr to get an F model.

I have both; the Caracal has a better trigger and less felt recoil. To me, handling characteristic's are different; the Caracal points up and the Glock is more of a down angle in my hand due to the bore axis.

At 7 or 10 yards, I shoot a better group with the Caracal. I only have around 500 rounds through it but it's been flawless. If it's as reliable as the Glock over time, then it's a winner at $400.

Rustin 09-19-2012 16:02

I can't stand the way that guy writes...

Any way I am eager to try out a Caracal. If it shoots better then I will switch over. After about 2k rounds through 3 different 9mm Glocks (19,26, then 17) I still shoot high and left. I'm thinking there might be a better polymer option out there for me. I can shoot one ragged hole all day with a 1911 but that is to be expected with the best trigger out there.

DonD 09-19-2012 16:05

I haven't shot or seen one but it's very premature to say what I think (I may be wrong) is a relatively new or certainly a relatively uncommon gun can be compared to the Glock which has hundreds of thousands, perhaps a few millions in service throughout the world.

Try back in a decade and see how it fares. Don

socialwork911 09-19-2012 16:10

just don't like supporting a Arab country (UAE), rather support a US co. JMO

DaBurna 09-19-2012 16:13

I can say dry-firing my Glock 19 now feels like an 8lb trigger vs. the Caracals 4.5lbs break. Honestly, it feels even better than my Steyr C9-A1 trigger, except the Steyr's reset is shorter....

RUT 09-19-2012 16:24

>>Laying them out “a side by each” (as they say in Woon-sock-ett)<<

You gotta be from southern New England to appreciate that one. :cool:

Viper 1 09-19-2012 16:38

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Originally Posted by RUT (Post 19436671)
>>Laying them out “a side by each” (as they say in Woon-sock-ett)<<

You gotta be from southern New England to appreciate that one. :cool:

Semper Fi!

Vietnam vet; 68, 69.

Beretta92guy 09-19-2012 16:43

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Originally Posted by socialwork911 (Post 19436641)
just don't like supporting a Arab country (UAE), rather support a US co. JMO

no offense sir, but who do you think you are supporting when you fill up with gasoline????

checkyoursix 09-19-2012 17:19

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Originally Posted by socialwork911 (Post 19436641)
just don't like supporting a Arab country (UAE), rather support a US co. JMO

Hate to break it to you but Glock is an Austrian company with an American subsidiary.

Beretta92guy 09-19-2012 17:31

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Originally Posted by checkyoursix (Post 19436800)
Hate to break it to you but Glock is an Austrian company with an American subsidiary.

Exactly :rofl:

plouffedaddy 09-19-2012 17:41

I get this question a lot because I frequently sing the praises of the Caracal C and F :wavey:

Here's the best way I can describe it......

I've shot Glocks longer than any other gun, I likely shoot them better than most guns for that very reason.

I shot the Caracal F (and C when I got it) better than any other gun I had never shot before. It's like a 1911 in that aspect---it makes average shooters good shooters.

If I had never fired a Glock or Caracal and was handed both for a range session my guess is I would say the Caracal is a superior firearm. They're exceptional guns at the $400 price point and they'd still be great guns at a $700 price point.

All that said, my HD guns are Glocks. I still shoot them better and have more confidence in them. That may change with more time and more rounds. :dunno:

Cole125 09-19-2012 17:47

The Caracal is probably a nice pistol, but you won't find a "better" polymer pistol than the G19.

GlockPride 09-19-2012 17:56

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Originally Posted by Cole125 (Post 19436891)
The Caracal is probably a nice pistol, but you won't find a "better" polymer pistol than the P30.

Just having some fun from one glocker to another. :wavey:

SouthpawG26 09-19-2012 18:08

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Originally Posted by plouffedaddy (Post 19436870)
They're exceptional guns at the $400 price point and they'd still be great guns at a $700 price point.

Dont say that too loud! Before you know it these guns will sport a familiar logo with two cannons and the text "imported from the UAE", with a $749.99 MSRP.

socialwork911 09-19-2012 18:22

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Originally Posted by Beretta92guy (Post 19436714)
no offense sir, but who do you think you are supporting when you fill up with gasoline????

it is tough to do all usa..I drive electric..american car...can't do it all..just what I can...usa all the way

socialwork911 09-19-2012 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by checkyoursix (Post 19436800)
Hate to break it to you but Glock is an Austrian company with an American subsidiary.

american workers is the issue..and our $$$ don't go back to fund army's against the usa....buy what you want..i'm not here to convince you

DaBurna 09-19-2012 18:29

I won't say $700 dollar good.... But hey $650 is about my CEILING on handguns... I guess I'll never get that Sig or Hk NIB... Lol!

Gary1911A1 09-19-2012 18:31

My Caracal C has a better trigger than any Glock I own. Only the Walther PPQ is better. I will be getting the "F" Model one day. If it wasn't for GSSF Matches and availability of parts I might get rid of my Glocks.

DonD 09-19-2012 18:35

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Originally Posted by Beretta92guy (Post 19436714)
no offense sir, but who do you think you are supporting when you fill up with gasoline????

That comment doesn't cut it. We aren't self sufficient in gas production, we either buy from without or do without and the latter isn't an option. There are US and friendly countries who produce fine weapons and even then I prefer to buy US when possible. Don

socialwork911 09-19-2012 18:44

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Originally Posted by DonD (Post 19437042)
That comment doesn't cut it. We aren't self sufficient in gas production, we either buy from without or do without and the latter isn't an option. There are US and friendly countries who produce fine weapons and even then I prefer to buy US when possible. Don

don---way to go...
as you see from my screen name, I'm a SW'er...who was a first responder on 9/11....working with area residents, those who made it out of the towers...and police/fire personnel who had difficulties during(yea-not all could handle it) and after.....guess I'm affected too....but for me and my house, when I can I buy USA..and support countries that support us...the only middle east country I'd buy from is Israel...nice guns too
given the current issues....that's the way i roll....you make your own decisions

Walk Soft 09-19-2012 18:48

I have both and I shoot the Caracal a lot better.

jp3975 09-19-2012 18:55

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Originally Posted by DonD (Post 19436630)
Try back in a decade and see how it fares. Don

Dont need to. It was designed by a weapons designer for Glock and the same guy who made the Steyr pistols that are renowned for being excellent guns.

They are regarded as wonderful pistols by everyone who's tried them.

And beyond that, the German govt put them through the harshest tests that pistols are put through and its NATO approved.

All the nay sayers are just haters imo.

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Before being put into production the Caracal pistol was evaluated through independent tests. These tests were carried out by the Federal German Armed Forces Technical Center for Weapons and Ammunition (WTD 91) in Meppen, Germany[5] which included metallurgic and composite analysis, functional fitness-for-purpose and quality evaluation, endurance firing, environmental exposure, safety and accuracy tests. A certificate was issued by the Bundeswehr Technical Center for Weapons and Ammunition (WTD 91) in May 2006 after the pistol successfully complied with the NATO D14 standard, the German Federal Police Standard and the German Federal Armed Forces Technical Purchasing requirements. These tests are the most stringent test protocols ever devised for a service firearm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracal_pistol

jp3975 09-19-2012 18:57

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Originally Posted by checkyoursix (Post 19436800)
Hate to break it to you but Glock is an Austrian company with an American subsidiary.

Yep...I think that guy needs to sell his Glocks and buy an M&P or XD.

As for me, I could care less where a gun comes from. I want the best available for the price point.

Like it or not, it seems like Caracal is it.


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