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JaPes 09-18-2012 17:14

New Gun Day: EAA Witness P Full Size (Pics Inside)
 
I purchased an EAA Witness P full size chambered in 9 X 19 mm. It's the Tanfoglio Force, imported from Italy by EAA. It's based off the CZ75.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps170bff8c.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps3478b327.jpg

This has got to be the smallest factory pistol case. The EAA Witness P includes one magazine, the instruction manual, a safety lock. It also includes two cleaning brushes: polymer bristle & phosphor bronze.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps41572506.jpg

Back to the pistol...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps8e5e5962.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps4736d999.jpg

JaPes 09-18-2012 17:14

The grip texture is rough where it needs to be. First picture is the front strap. Second is the back strap. There are no interchangeable grip panels.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psa97c5999.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps0085ddcc.jpg

Field stripped:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps548c3d4c.jpg

A view into the frame:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps7444b4ff.jpg

Slide field stripped. The metal guide rod is a plus.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps57d0216e.jpg

JaPes 09-18-2012 17:15

A view into the slide. A close up of the rear slide serration.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psad5c7187.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps9be6bf98.jpg

The barrel. The locking lugs are very 1911-esque.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps091af6ef.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psee3bc137.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psb85843c7.jpg

JaPes 09-18-2012 17:15

The feed ramp on the EAA Witness is very steep.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psb0e0f2a6.jpg

With a magazine & dummy round inserted, you can see the path the round takes to the chamber. It will be interesting to find out if the EAA Witness P is hollow point ammo sensitive.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps41ad2c0c.jpg

I can't wait until the weekend to break it in. I plan on firing a hundred factory loads and then transition to my reloads. So far it feels very good in the hand, no sloppy fit or finish. For $299, I'm not complaining.

427 09-18-2012 17:21

Nice!!

That looks like a Bul Cherokee.

Bruce M 09-18-2012 17:21

Very interesting. Great detailed photos! How does that grip feel?

bac1023 09-18-2012 17:29

Very nice

Congrats! :cool:

JaPes 09-18-2012 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce M (Post 19433379)
Very interesting. Great detailed photos! How does that grip feel?

The texture felt aggressive. Not quite as harsh as Glock RTF. Not quite as mild as Glock Gen4.

I have smaller hands, and the grip feels good. The only way I can describe it is S&W M&P full size w/small grip panel without the palm swell.

GlockinNJ 09-18-2012 17:54

Kinda ugly to me. Especially the dual texture side grips. What the hell is going on there? Yech.

DaBurna 09-18-2012 18:21

<==== looked at one of these as my 1st DA/SA... Let us know how she shoots!!

Berto 09-18-2012 18:57

It's hard to tell, but are the frame rails steel? It's looks like it has a steel insert at the hammer end.

bmoore 09-18-2012 19:14

For 299 it looks great, I hope it runs great for you. Now they need one in 10mm for 379.

s&wfan 09-18-2012 20:19

Congrats! I think the Witness is pretty solid. Have shot a 10mm steel frame model. Shockingly accurate.

Glock40man 09-18-2012 23:09

Congrats!:cool:

Glock40man 09-18-2012 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by s&wfan (Post 19434100)
Congrats! I think the Witness is pretty solid. Have shot a 10mm steel frame model. Shockingly accurate.

I have always wanted to try one of their 10MMs.

JaPes 09-19-2012 05:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berto (Post 19433765)
It's hard to tell, but are the frame rails steel? It's looks like it has a steel insert at the hammer end.

The frame rails are steel. Hopefully this better pic will be of help:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psd6c5a741.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by s&wfan (Post 19434100)
Congrats! I think the Witness is pretty solid. Have shot a 10mm steel frame model. Shockingly accurate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glock40man (Post 19434603)
I have always wanted to try one of their 10MMs.

A 10mm EAA Witness is on my radar for next year. I'm done purchasing firearms this year.

SigFTW 09-19-2012 06:28

EAA makes a find pistol! It was my first choice when I was looking for a 10mm however wound up buying the S&W 1006 because it was built for the 10mm!

I may still get one (the all steel frame) because they are solid and priced right.

Let us know how it performs at the range! :thumbsup:

bac1023 09-19-2012 06:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigFTW (Post 19435105)
EAA makes a find pistol! It was my first choice when I was looking for a 10mm however wound up buying the S&W 1006 because it was built for the 10mm!

EAA makes a good 10mm, but you got the better of the two for sure. :)

JaPes 09-21-2012 16:08

Went to the range today. Between new hypertension medication & work stress, my shooting wasn't stellar. Excuses...excuses... :(

The EAA Witness P / Tanfoglio Force flawlessly cycled 300 rounds today. 100 Winchester White Box. 100 mild reloads w/frangible truncated projectiles. 50 peppy reloads w/frangible truncated projectiles. 50 peppy reloads w/Berry's 115gr copper plated.

The Witness P is definitely more than the sum of it's parts. Accuracy is spot on accurate. The deep curved & serrated trigger weren't a detriment as I thought it would be. The hybrid grip texture is grippy in all the right places.

My only other comparison to a full size is to my S&W M&P 9fs. Felt recoil with factory rounds and the "peppy" rounds out of the EAA Witness P is on par with a S&W M&P 9fs.

Using the mild handloads, the EAA witness' ejection is more positive than the S&W M&P 9fs. Using the mild loads, my M&P makes a neat pile right by my feet. The same rounds out of the Witness P are flung to the right as if they were full power loads.I perceived less muzzle flip firing the Witness P than my M&P 9fs. It made follow up shots easier.

The EAA Witness DA trigger pull isn't bad at all. The SA trigger pull is perfection.

The one observation I have is that I'm used to manipulating a traditional side that mounts over the frame rails. It gives me more slide surface area to grip it overhand and power-stroke the pistol. The Witness P has less surface area on the slide for an overhand grip & power stroke. No big deal.

Target is out to 10yds./30ft.

First target:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psdb3960ab.jpg

I wasn't concerned about accuracy. I was paying more attention the pistol's function, felt recoil impulse, and trigger.

Second target:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psadc2260d.jpg

Pistol functioning perfectly. Now paying attention to how the trigger breaks, DA & SA.

Third target:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psca2f157c.jpg

Paying more attention to the sights & trigger. Moving around to see where POA correlates to POI.

Fourth target:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps431616ec.jpg

Now I'm trying to put it all together. I'm getting frustrated because the new hypertension medication is affecting my shooting. This is my first time completely off caffeine & with this new medicine.

Fifth target:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps10540170.jpg

This was the best I could do today. The grouping is good, just off to the right of the bullseye. The Witness P is doing it's job exceptionally well. I'm just not holding up my end of the bargain well.

I can't believe this gun cost $299. It's definitely a bargain.

dondavis3 04-16-2013 16:04

Congratulations on your new gun.

I just bought one today online from "Cheaper Than Dirt"

I'll get it next week - I'm looking forward to it.

I've owned EAA's before and they are great guns.

There is a steal of a price on them at CTD today - only a few left.

:cool:


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