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xgame2k 05-20-2012 17:01

Questions on ammo. . .
 
What's the best defensive round out (most effective, quality, reliable...)?








*(I have searched the forum, but found nothing specifically asking this)*

Picking up my first gun (Glock 39) and am not one to skimp on quality over a few dollars.

Sheepdog689 05-20-2012 18:05

I'm a fan of Speer Gold Dot. It's what I carry on duty in my .40 and off duty in my 9mm and 45GAP. For the GAP I carry 200g bullets.

DannyR 05-20-2012 18:21

The pistol was designed around the 200-gr Gold Dot, but offerings from Federal, Winchester and Cor-Bon are all excellent choices.

xgame2k 05-20-2012 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyR (Post 18991250)
The pistol was designed around the 200-gr Gold Dot, but offerings from Federal, Winchester and Cor-Bon are all excellent choices.

I know this, but is there a certain round that tops them all?

Shark1007 05-20-2012 19:07

I like the Federal HST's in 230 grain and the Corbon Barnes all copper round.

fasteddie565 05-21-2012 04:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgame2k (Post 18991340)
I know this, but is there a certain round that tops them all?


There are too many variables to say which one is best. The general rule is to use a bonded bullet to prevent the jacket from separating and the lead core from shattering / breaking apart.

When I went to gunsite some 20 years ago, The Guru professed the value of a 200 grn flat point, stating it punched a hole like a paper punch where a round nose punched a hole more like a knitting needle.

I place more value on shot placement than bullet type. If you hit an assailant in the chest with 2-3 rds of 200 grn anything, you will probably take the fight out of him (or her).

All Copper bullets have their place, but the performance data is just not there for me (YMMV). If you have to shoot through a barrier, the copper bullet is not so good.

  • Shoot a bonded bullet (My preference is the Speer GDHP)
  • Shot placement
  • Shoot until you defeat your threat.

fasteddie565 05-21-2012 05:01

DannyR,

Like the new avatar, retirement looks great on you!

xgame2k 05-21-2012 19:22

Thanks for credible responses.

After looking into ammo further, the most recommended round was the Speer Gold Dot 200gr. HP.

I plan on getting 100 rounds of that for carrying.

What would be the best (or highly recommended) round for target/range? I heard stories of some (Winchester comes to mind) ruining barrels and/or jamming.

CookeMonster 05-22-2012 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgame2k (Post 18995687)
Thanks for credible responses.

After looking into ammo further, the most recommended round was the Speer Gold Dot 200gr. HP.

I plan on getting 100 rounds of that for carrying.

What would be the best (or highly recommended) round for target/range? I heard stories of some (Winchester comes to mind) ruining barrels and/or jamming.

If you're settled on the Gold Dot, then Speer's Lawman will give you near identical trajectory and feel to their defensive rounds.

I'm another that would support the Federal HST as my #1 choice. Ranger T is my #2. Gold Dots or the copper bullets are my #3 choice. The bonded bullets get a very good rep for barrier penetration, but that is mostly due to the FBI windshield tests. Doubt you'll be shooting through a windshield. HST and Ranger T have gone head and shoulders above all others for expansion through heavy clothing even at the lower velocities that I would expect from the G39. I haven't seen anybody actually do a G39 comparison of the major brands, but in other guns, and especially short barrel pistols as well as with .45 ACP the Winchester Ranger T and Federal HST knocked it out of the park.

cowboywannabe 05-22-2012 03:28

if its as good as the .45acp like many say then any descent standard pressure 230gr. h.p. will do nicely.

DannyR 05-22-2012 09:53

Cowboy:

Very same bullet at very same velocity = very same performance.

Dbltapglock 05-22-2012 20:37

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fasteddie565 06-03-2012 07:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by LibertyGlock (Post 19000048)
After months of reading online and watching youtube videos, I went for the Federal HST LE 230 gr, reg, regular pressure.

Lots of folks carry that round, is it a bonded bullet?

GLOCK17DB9 06-03-2012 07:33

I'm a huge fan of Winchester Ranger T series +P.:supergrin:

dudel 06-03-2012 13:22

For SD, I like the 200gr Gold Dots.

DannyR 06-03-2012 14:41

I presently carry Federal Law Enforcement Tactical HST ammo in my GAP's. Product number P45GHST1, a 230-gr with a velocity of 855fps, per Federal.

SGT45 06-04-2012 21:52

We issue the same as the PA. State Police- Good results from us and PSP. Speer 200 grn. HP Gold Dot.

Gappy 06-09-2012 18:04

Vote for 200 gr Gold Dots
 
Just read this review on Midway and thought it interesting:

This is the issued ammo for my duty weapon Glock 37. I just qualified at the range a couple of days ago and was pleased with the very tight groupings that it produced. In the 3 years since the use of this caliber began among law enforcement circles here in New York this round has produced nearly 100% one shot stoppages including one that recently occurred about 75 miles north of New York City. Everyone in Law Enforcement that carries this particular 200 grain round can't stop raving about it. An absolute must have if this is now the caliber that you carry.

xgame2k 06-09-2012 19:05

Like.

Dbltapglock 06-10-2012 20:24

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