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Amplified 05-06-2012 13:35

.357 sig
 
The ballistics of this round are quite impressive!

4.5" barrel - 1612fps
4.0" barrel - 1550fps
3.5" barrel - 1494fps


[URL]http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_32&products_id=124[/URL]

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unit1069 05-06-2012 14:08

Quite a few Glock Talk members have chronoed Double Tap rounds that haven't lived up to published velocity numbers.

I have some DT Gold Dot .357sig ammo I bought about five years ago and it doesn't seem any different than all the other .357sig rounds I've shot. However, that's just my impression, not from any measured statistics.

Amplified 05-06-2012 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by unit1069 (Post 18935370)
Quite a few Glock Talk members have chronoed Double Tap rounds that haven't lived up to published velocity numbers.

I have some DT Gold Dot .357sig ammo I bought about five years ago and it doesn't seem any different than all the other .357sig rounds I've shot. However, that's just my impression, not from any measured statistics.

I'll have to see what the Chronograph readings are for these specific rounds.

fredj338 05-06-2012 15:36

First you have to believe DTs chrono numbers, most actual test data show they over estimate, as do all ammo manuf. Second, I wouldn't trust any of the 115grJHP manuf to hold up in that high a vel impact. If the bullet hits bone, it's likey to fragment & severely limit penetration, but if you are impressed w/ such numbers, go for it.

Amplified 05-06-2012 20:16

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Originally Posted by fredj338 (Post 18935648)
First you have to believe DTs chrono numbers, most actual test data show they over estimate, as do all ammo manuf. Second, I wouldn't trust any of the 115grJHP manuf to hold up in that high a vel impact. If the bullet hits bone, it's likey to fragment & severely limit penetration, but if you are impressed w/ such numbers, go for it.


Amplified 05-06-2012 20:22

I'm very close to deciding on a Glock model in .357 SIG. I think that the Glock line has the best platform for the .357 SIG chambering, low bore axis, high-cap, durability, reliability etc.

Rev.357 05-06-2012 20:40

The 31 & 32 are awesome!! I use the 31 for OWB carry & my 32 for IWB EDC. The 31 is a sweet shooter but, the 32 is a fast carry gun. You can't go wrong!!

WoodenPlank 05-06-2012 21:33

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Originally Posted by Amplified (Post 18936857)
I'm very close to deciding on a Glock model in .357 SIG. I think that the Glock line has the best platform for the .357 SIG chambering, low bore axis, high-cap, durability, reliability etc.

I replaced my old Glock 32 with a SIG P229 SAS Gen. 1 and couldn't be happier. The 32 holds one extra round in the magazine, but suffers from much stiffer recoil due to the lighter frame and slide. In my experience, the 229 vastly outshines the Glock in 357SIG.

Amplified 05-06-2012 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev.357 (Post 18936932)
The 31 & 32 are awesome!! I use the 31 for OWB carry & my 32 for IWB EDC. The 31 is a sweet shooter but, the 32 is a fast carry gun. You can't go wrong!!

It is a tough choice lol! I am leaning towards the 31, mainly because of the 4.5" barrel. This may be the longest that I've ever debated over a firearm purchase.

Amplified 05-06-2012 22:04

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Originally Posted by WoodenPlank (Post 18937146)
I replaced my old Glock 32 with a SIG P229 SAS Gen. 1 and couldn't be happier. The 32 holds one extra round in the magazine, but suffers from much stiffer recoil due to the lighter frame and slide. In my experience, the 229 vastly outshines the Glock in 357SIG.

I have a 229 in .40 S&W. I'm however, not a fan of caliber conversion barrels etc. I like my guns to be one caliber and one only.

Glock31odgreen 05-06-2012 22:08

Hey bro there is a sweet RTF2 NIB 31 for 499 on gun broker ending in a hour got to love the RTF2 unless u just want a 4th gen I say go for it I love mine btw!
[url]http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=285381345[/url]

Glock 31 OD Green-22&15rd sticks,Larry Vickers magazine release,Ghost Ultimate 3.5,Wolf competition spring kit.

Amplified 05-06-2012 22:10

I just don't like "Frankensteining" my firearms, swapping calibers, doing this, doing that etc.

One of my pet peeves is mismatching uppers and lowers on AR's, it's drives me nuts! I don't care if we're talking about an Knights Armament upper on an LMT lower, it just irks me! :upeyes:

Amplified 05-06-2012 22:11

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Originally Posted by Glock31odgreen (Post 18937259)
Hey bro there is a sweet RTF2 NIB 31 for 499 on gun broker ending in a hour got to love the RTF2 unless u just want a 4th gen I say go for it I love mine btw!
[URL]http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=285381345[/URL]

Glock 31 OD Green-22&15rd sticks,Larry Vickers magazine release,Ghost Ultimate 3.5,Wolf competition spring kit.

Thanks for the info man. I'm mostly interested in Gen 4s at this point though, but I'll check it out!

cowboy1964 05-06-2012 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodenPlank (Post 18937146)
I replaced my old Glock 32 with a SIG P229 SAS Gen. 1 and couldn't be happier. The 32 holds one extra round in the magazine, but suffers from much stiffer recoil due to the lighter frame and slide. In my experience, the 229 vastly outshines the Glock in 357SIG.

Maybe, but for me the 229 is a no-go in terms of carryability. I wish it weren't as I love that gun.

NEOH212 05-07-2012 02:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by unit1069 (Post 18935370)
Quite a few Glock Talk members have chronoed Double Tap rounds that haven't lived up to published velocity numbers.

I have some DT Gold Dot .357sig ammo I bought about five years ago and it doesn't seem any different than all the other .357sig rounds I've shot. However, that's just my impression, not from any measured statistics.

I've never had the chance to chrono the Double Tap .357 Sig. However, I've tested a bit of their ammo in other calibers. All but one came up short of the advertised velocity.

There is better for the money. I will say, if it actually did get those velocity numbers, then .357 Sig would actually equal the .357 Magnum.

At least until the gun battered itself to death!

:supergrin:

barth 05-07-2012 08:28

FASTER, Faster faster...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NEOH212 (Post 18937616)
I've never had the chance to chrono the Double Tap .357 Sig. However, I've tested a bit of their ammo in other calibers. All but one came up short of the advertised velocity.

There is better for the money. I will say, if it actually did get those velocity numbers, then .357 Sig would actually equal the .357 Magnum.

At least until the gun battered itself to death!

:supergrin:

My G27 with a 3.46" 357 barrel kicks hard.
Add a 4.16" dual ported barrel and it's ready for fast combat work.
But when I loaded up hot Speer Duty 1375 fps in it,
it's back to bucking - LOL!
In that gun I run Winchester Ranger T-Series for SD.

My 4" 44 Mag, on a good day, will put down a bear.
But it's no combat pistol.

IMHO - fast is good, but there's a point where it's no good.

unit1069 05-07-2012 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodenPlank (Post 18937146)
I replaced my old Glock 32 with a SIG P229 SAS Gen. 1 and couldn't be happier. The 32 holds one extra round in the magazine, but suffers from much stiffer recoil due to the lighter frame and slide. In my experience, the 229 vastly outshines the Glock in 357SIG.

I was a bit put off shooting my first serious duty caliber handgun, my Generation 3 G-32 because of the "stiff" recoil you mention. After I installed a Wolff stainless steel guide rod and Wolff 20# spring the muzzle flip was noticeably reduced.

Not questioning your preferred choice, just mentioning what a tweak did for me.

Amplified 05-07-2012 09:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEOH212 (Post 18937616)
I've never had the chance to chrono the Double Tap .357 Sig. However, I've tested a bit of their ammo in other calibers. All but one came up short of the advertised velocity.

There is better for the money. I will say, if it actually did get those velocity numbers, then .357 Sig would actually equal the .357 Magnum.

At least until the guhttp://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=18938513&posted=1#post18938513n battered itself to death!

:supergrin:

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"At least until the gun battered itself to death!" < I'm sure that you must be a super genius, just like Wile E Coyote!http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/imag...ngue%20out.gif

Amplified 05-07-2012 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by unit1069 (Post 18938494)
I was a bit put off shooting my first serious duty caliber handgun, my Generation 3 G-32 because of the "stiff" recoil you mention. After I installed a Wolff stainless steel guide rod and Wolff 20# spring the muzzle flip was noticeably reduced.

Not questioning your preferred choice, just mentioning what a tweak did for me.

Lmao! Stiff recoil from a puny little .35 cal? Are you serious? Try shooting the Smith .500 Mag or any Magnum caliber revolver, it makes these medium powered pistol calibers seem like BB guns. :supergrin:

Amplified 05-07-2012 10:06

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Originally Posted by barth (Post 18938256)
My G27 with a 3.46" 357 barrel kicks hard.
Add a 4.16" dual ported barrel and it's ready for fast combat work.
But when I loaded up hot Speer Duty 1375 fps in it,
it's back to bucking - LOL!
In that gun I run Winchester Ranger T-Series for SD.

My 4" 44 Mag, on a good day, will put down a bear.
But it's no combat pistol.

IMHO - fast is good, but there's a point where it's no good.

The .357 SIG in a sub-compact, does not kick hard to me lol! :yawn:

I shot my buddy's G29 10mm with full power defensive JHPs, and it's a powderpuff just like all autoloader calibers, with possibly the exception of the .50 AE, but even that is light compared to the .500 and anything .41 mag and above. :supergrin:


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