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G26 vs. G27 Ballistics

I'm trying to decide between a G26 and G27...

Why I want the G27:
1. I have 2 other .40cal handguns - ammo would work in all
2. Bigger round, more stopping power etc.

Why I want the G26:
1. Holds 1 more round than the G27
2. Less recoil, get back on target easier
3. Ammo is much cheaper
4. Easier for Fiancee to shoot if needed

I am leaning towards the G26, but am concerned that the 9mm and short barrel = less stopping power, so the G27 might be a better choice.

Where can I find ballistics comparing the G26 & G27 vs. normal barrel lengths?

Look up the tests on a 4" barrel and subtract approximately 30FPS.

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Originally Posted by JBP55 (Post 18594865)

Look up the tests on a 4" barrel and subtract approximately 30FPS.

I wanted to see the energy statistics too ;)

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Originally Posted by ES13Raven (Post 18594828)

Get a G27 with a Storm Lake G27 40-9mm conversion barrel and have both! I did...

Also a G23 40-9mm will fit in the G27 as well and give you a full 4.02" gun.
Speer GDHP 9mm 124 +P run 1220 fps 410 E from a 4" barrel.
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/mya...9242011000.jpg

Glock 26 Velocities

All information is based on 10-shot averages from the 3.46" factory Glock barrel in a Glock 26. Average velocities, extreme spreads, and standard deviations are in ft/sec. An asterisk by the load indicates that it is no longer made. Some Glock 26 shooters may still have some of this ammunition so the data is included.

Ammunition Average Velocity Extreme Spread Std. Deviation

Aguila 65-gr IQ HP 1517 64 23

Glaser Silver Pre-Frag +P 1514 N/A N/A

Winchester USA 115-gr FMJ 1097 87 40

PMP 115-gr FMJ 1046 38 15

Fiocchi 115-gr FMJ 1180 57 21

Federal 115-gr JHP (9BP) 1111 34 13

Triton 115-gr Hi Vel JHP +P* 1280 N/A N/A

Hornady 124-gr XTP CQ Tap 1100 38 16

Federal 124-gr Nyclad HP* 1063 N/A N/A

Triton 125-gr Hi Vel JHP +P* 1245 N/A N/A
Corbon 124-gr XTP +P* 1229 N/A N/A
Corbon 125-gr JHP +P 1188 43 17

Winchester 127-gr JHP +P+
RA9TA 1246 33 13

I believe there is a website called ballistics by the inch that may be if some help...

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Originally Posted by barth (Post 18594923)

+1 on the 27 and you have both

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Federal 180 gr JHP
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1005 404 180.9
G 23 962 370 173.2
G 27 913 333 164.4

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Remington 180gr Golden Saber (sample size: 1/ea)
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 n/a n/a n/a
G 23 961 369 173.0
G 27 934 349 168.1

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Speer Lawman 180gr TMJ
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 991 392 178.3
G 23 967 374 174.0
G 27 914 334 164.5

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Federal 155gr Hydra-shok
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1154 458 178.9
G 23 1107 422 171.6
G 27 1077 399 166.9

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Speer Gold Dot 155gr JHP
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1245 534 193.0
G 23 1210 504 187.6
G 27 1148 454 177.9 ***

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Winchester 155gr Silvertip
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1188 486 184.1
G 23 1131 440 175.3
G 27 1082 403 167.8

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Cor-Bon 135 gr JHP
vel ke pf

Eagle 5.1 1335 535 180.3
G 23 1258 474 169.8
G 27 1210 439 163.4

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Originally Posted by ES13Raven (Post 18594903)

I wanted to see the energy statistics too

that seems a bit pretentious but try here: http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/40sw.html and here http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/9mm.html and here http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9luger.html and here http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/40sw.html

what exactly are you trying to stop that you dont think 11 rounds of 9mm wouldnt work....

Please, Please don't say a Bear

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Originally Posted by vmann (Post 18595113)

what exactly are you trying to stop that you dont think 11 rounds of 9mm wouldnt work....

Oh No,
Not another Bear gun thread - LOL!
http://www.wildanimalfightclub.com/P...kodiakbear.bmp

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Originally Posted by barth (Post 18594955)

It looks as though the average velocity difference between a g23 and g27 for these loads is approximately 35-45 fps...just a guess by looking at the differences in velocity. The differences in the velocities for each load are pretty close to 25, 50, 25, 50, 25, 50fps...

I love my G26. With the new hollowpoints on the market I don't feel underpowered with the 9mm. +P+ ballistics for penetration and expansion are right in line with all the other calibers. My preference is to have the most rounds availabe to me.

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the .40 cal round might travel slower than a 9mm, but when you are shooting at something, whatever it is isn't going to be able to move fast enough to get out of the way. you can easily increase the capacity of the 27 with +1 extension. i have pearce +1 grips on all my 27 mags. keeps the frame manageable but gives you the extra round...good fit for medium sized hands. i've always been biased to the .40 cal - solid ballistics and great stopping power. i find that round easy to control, even with a subcompact weapon and hold it as my "standard". you and your fiancee can shoot well with a 27 with practice. seems like a no brainer to me...especially since you can get a conversion barrel for the 27 and make it a 9mm, like previously stated.

Anyone who has been on this forum for awhile has seen a lot more "I had a 27 but..." posts than "I had a 26 but..." ones.

I went with the 26, I have a few 23s & others to handle the 40s.

I ended up buying both. With good self defense loads I don't really feel much of a difference in recoil. With Wally World practice ammo the 9mm (G26) is a soft shooter but the .40 (G27) still feels close to the recoil of the self defense loads. While I like the G27, I would recommend the G26 over it even though my other Glocks are not in 9mm.

Really you should try to go shoot both with self defense ammo and bulk ammo and make your choice from your experience.

The first firearm I was issued was a H&K .40 USP Compact. It was a decent gun. When I had to buy a duty weapon for my new job, I stuck with .40 and got a Glock 23. I shot well with it, but after 200+ rounds, the web of my hand was red and sore.

Waaaa *sniff, sniff*, I know.

I went to the range and tried a Glock 19 in 9mm. WOW. Big difference. I was firing quickly and putting rounds right where I wanted them. So I bought the Glock 19 and a 26 to carry OD/BUG. I LOVE my 26. I can shoot the 26 as well as the 19 even at distance.

Some people say there isn't a big difference in recoil between 9mm and .40. Eh, it's not big enough to affect a good shooter. However, .40 IS more snappy. To me, if I wanted something with "stopping power" (stupid term!), I'd go with .45. I'm very pleased with 9mm in +p as my duty ammo.

Go with the Glock 26. You won't be disappointed. Just get good ammo to carry in it. Don't buy some cheap crap.

Not a fan of the .40 round at all anymore. I was when I knew little about firearms.

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Originally Posted by barth (Post 18594923)

Get a G27 with a Storm Lake G27 40-9mm conversion barrel and have both! I did...

Also a G23 40-9mm will fit in the G27 as well and give you a full 4.02" gun.
Speer GDHP 9mm 124 +P run 1220 fps 410 E from a 4" barrel.
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/mya...9242011000.jpg

Nice, barth! I didn't know there was Pachmayr like that for the G26/27, I've only seen the smaller one but this one fits the grip nicely like their G22 and G23 version. Where did you find it? Thanks for any info.

ES13Raven,

I would suggest buying a G27 and then later on down the road pick up a Lone Wolf conversion barrel to 9mm, plus a few G26 mags, basically you’ll have both. I’m looking at doing the same after I return from Afghanistan in one month (hoping to get an OD green G27 to match my G22 in OD). Good luck!

The link for Lone Wolf listed below:
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=241

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Originally Posted by ES13Raven (Post 18594828)

While I can't remember the exact numbers, I did a test between my 26 and 27 using Gold Dot ammo in both. In the 26 I fired 124+p, and out of the 27 I fired 180gr. Then took the average velocities for both and put them into an exterior ballistics calculator. The result was interesting, because the 9mm round yielded less than a 10 foot pound difference (lower) from the .40 round. Another thing I did was to fire both into water, for expansion and weight retention. Both retained 100% weight, but the 9mm expanded to a larger diameter than the .40. My conclusion is, with the right ammo in a 9mm, I feel well armed.

Pachmayr Tactical Grip Glove Slip-On Grip Sleeve Glock 26, 27, 28, 29, 30,

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 18596787)

Fits perfect, like a glove LOL! I love it.

Pachmayr Tactical Grip Glove Slip-On Grip Sleeve Glock 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 33, 39 Rubber Black - $9.99
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/376...9-rubber-black
http://media.midwayusa.com/productim...376/376822.jpg

I bought a 26 and later added a 23 for a little variety and added capacity. Both conceal beautifully in Nick Mathews #1 and Gary Brommeland's Max Con V.

There's no doubting that .40 has a little harder kick so the slightly larger form factor is helpful. 13+1 .40 180 HST is pretty comforting too.

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Originally Posted by WRC (Post 18596451)

I did the same, bought a 26 and 27. I set both pistols up with XS Big Dots, smooth triggers and rubber Talon grips. Have had the same expierence with recoil. Can't tell the different between either one accuracy wise.

The 9mm will stay on target easier. But I have come away feeling confident the .40 hits "harder".