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Black Smoke Trail 06-13-2011 10:40

Ex-cop Mehserle who killed Oscar Grant at Oakland train station released
 
11 months for shooting a cuffed man laying on his face in the back. :dunno:

JUST-US has been served. :eagle:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...y_release.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZBiI...layer_embedded

El_Ron1 06-13-2011 10:43

Oscar would have cured cancer by now and been close to conquering AIDS as well.

ChuteTheMall 06-13-2011 10:51

He meant to use a stun gun on the handcuffed & face-down victim, but drew his pistol instead.

Oops.

If he wasn't carrying a stun gun, he wouldn't have killed anyone.

Black Smoke Trail 06-13-2011 10:52

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Originally Posted by El_Ron1 (Post 17488473)
Oscar would have cured cancer by now and been close to conquering AIDS as well.

On second thought you have a good point there. Apparently you think that anyone who does not meet your expectations or standards of humanity should be executed. Very efficient and effective.

This line of logic and superior thinking has been employed by very famous and effective leaders throughout history. Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, Adolf Hitler, and Joeseph Stalin just to name a few. .

Superior thinking such as that must not allow minor details like due process, natural born rights, and Constitutional freedoms to get in the way. These concepts and value are wasted on lowly minions like Oscar Grant. Right? :upeyes:

I am sure Mehserle will go on to perfect the cold fusion process and move on to solving global warming.

cowboywannabe 06-13-2011 10:55

baaa....punks murder intentionally and get 7 years served.....this is just par for that same course.

Black Smoke Trail 06-13-2011 10:56

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Originally Posted by ChuteTheMall (Post 17488504)
He meant to use a stun gun on the handcuffed & face-down victim, but drew his pistol instead.

Oops.

If he wasn't carrying a stun gun, he wouldn't have killed anyone.

That was the euphamistic rationalization given for the attrocity. Even if in fact true, there was absolutely no reason to taser a cuffed subdued man laying on his stomach.

Going with Mehserle's rationalization, he was intending to torture Oscar Grant with his taser. Still not exactly honorable intentions to say the least.

There will always be disagreement over the taser but in my opinion, when abused or used on improper persons, the taser IS a lethal weapon.

Black Smoke Trail 06-13-2011 10:58

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Originally Posted by cowboywannabe (Post 17488520)
baaa....punks murder intentionally and get 7 years served.....this is just par for that same course.

EXACTLY. Mehserle is NOT the focal point here. The focus should be on the judicial system that allowed this attrocity and abortion of justice to happen.

Natty 06-13-2011 11:06

Obviously officer Mehserle wasn't scared and fearing for his life, or he would have shot 15 times.

voyager4520 06-13-2011 11:20

Maybe Tasers should be redesigned so you don't pull a trigger to fire them. And maybe they shouldn't be shaped like a gun.

With all the liability lawyers circling every aspect of life like sharks I'm surprised a "less-lethal" law enforcement weapon would be shaped like a handgun.

cowboywannabe 06-13-2011 11:56

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Originally Posted by voyager4520 (Post 17488602)
Maybe Tasers should be redesigned so you don't pull a trigger to fire them. And maybe they shouldn't be shaped like a gun.

With all the liability lawyers circling every aspect of life like sharks I'm surprised a "less-lethal" law enforcement weapon would be shaped like a handgun.

its supposed to be worn on your "weak side" so you have to make a concious decision to use it instead of your handgun.

Mayhem like Me 06-13-2011 12:12

I'm glad he's out , however, he was criminally negligent, he shot a man he meant to taze.
Some people do not belong in this line of work becasue they vaporlock under stress I am sorry that he had to find that out on the job.

And sorry for the needless loss of life.

redneck1861 06-15-2011 20:49

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Originally Posted by swatbwana (Post 17488834)
I'm glad he's out , however, he was criminally negligent, he shot a man he meant to taze.
Some people do not belong in this line of work becasue they vaporlock under stress I am sorry that he had to find that out on the job.

And sorry for the needless loss of life.

I agree

Brucev 06-27-2011 20:20

He's out. He got away with murder. Now that he's no longer being protected. He probably better pay a lot of attention to his rear view mirror.

BonoVox 06-27-2011 20:22

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Originally Posted by Brucev (Post 17554289)
He's out. He got away with murder. Now that he's no longer being protected. He probably better pay a lot of attention to his rear view mirror.

Lame.

Brucev 06-28-2011 09:32

"Lame?" He is a murderer. He got away with murder. He is now out on the streets. He is no longer has any government provided protection. He has to take care of himself. He'll need to keep his eyes open. People have long memories.

chivvalry 06-28-2011 09:42

Wasn't "murder"... there was no malice aforethought... he made a hugely tragic mistake that cost the victim his life and him his career and future. Bad situation all the way around.

Brucev 06-28-2011 18:26

"Wasn''t 'murder'...?" Really. If a criminal had had a officer on the ground and put a round in the back of his head, it would be murder. This is no different.

Sam Spade 06-28-2011 21:02

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Originally Posted by Brucev (Post 17558369)
"Wasn''t 'murder'...?" Really. If a criminal had had a officer on the ground and put a round in the back of his head, it would be murder. This is no different.

You gotta be ****ing me. No difference between the two---really? No difference between a guy who's a criminal from the start deliberately shooting someone and a guy who's trying to make a lawful arrest of an actual criminal and screws it up.

What a disgusting point of view, from someone obviously lacking in discernment and judgement. Next time, call MS13 instead of 911; we'll all be happier.

Brucev 07-01-2011 05:21

I am sure you and the other posters at this site are fine men. I do not doubt your commitment to professionalism and integrity. In the late 70's and early 80's I had a lot of fun working with friends who were in LE in New Orleans. There were fine men. In this case, I do not at all agree with anyone who wants to give this man a pass for blowing another man's brains out because he made a mistake. I count him a murderer without excuse. Had I been on his jury, he would have had to really "walk on water" to have made me see it any differently. Accident? The same thing from anyone else, a homeowner holding a criminal at gunpoint on the floor for instance, would have been judged far differently. There is no reason to cut this man any slack. Closing ranks? I understand the impluse. I also know that it is a mistake. I know ministers who have been accused of crimes. Some have been guilty. Others have been simply accused. Evidence collected by police proved them completely innocent of the charge. However, I do understand the impulse. It is hard to accept failure on the part of a colleague. Further, it damages the profession. Those with a high level of trust and responsibility must accept that they are held to a higher standard than simply that of a reasonable man. Failure to hold those who fail to the highest standards only makes things harder for those who hold to those standards.

chivvalry 07-01-2011 06:18

Did you watch the video and see the officer's expression and reaction when his "taser" went "bang"? Murder requires malice aforethought of which there was obviously none here. This was manslaughter and a tragic mistake and completely different than your example of a criminal executing an officer.


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