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Honor Bound 05-07-2011 12:22

New G36 range report
 
So Iíve listened to a lot of the debate back and forth between the G36 and the G26. Both seem very popular and have their own dedicated following. My decision to go with the G36 was primarily based on the 45 ACP round. I already own/have owned a G30 and G21. Enjoyed both very much. I also own a 1911 that is a dream to shoot.

Iíve always leaned towards the 45 ACP. Recently I read the conglomerate of postings from the Atlanta ME and that has pretty much sealed any questions I might have regarding the 9mm vs 45 ACP debate.

http://www.gunthorp.com/Terminal%20B...a%20morgue.htm

I had read some postings about reliability issues with the G36. Itís been said that there are some lemons out there. That said, I took the risk and bought one anyway. I also added the Pierce +1 magazine extensions to my magazines. Hereís my report.

The first trip to the range I shot 250 rnds of WWB and 12 rnds of Rem Golden Saber 185 +P.

First impression was it had much more recoil than the G30. I have big hands and itís a bit harder to get a solid hold on the slim G36 frame. My groups were not great at first. After trying a few different grips I found one that worked for me and it was a little easier to handle and the groups improved.

My first trip yielded 2 FTLs and 2 FTFs. Throughout out the day I was conscious not to limp wrist my grip. Not flawless, but not a huge concern either. Notably, the Golden Sabers, my SD CCW round of choice, had no issues.

For my next trip to the range I brought a box of Winchester SXZ training rounds, some Remington UMC JHPs and some Golden Saber 230 P. I also added a Pachmayr #5 slip-on grip.

I shot a total of 150 rnds that day. I did have a problem with one of the UMC rounds loading, but after a couple repeated FFLs with the same round, I determined it was the round and not the gun/shooter. Also, at risk of stating the obvious, the Golden Saber 230 P was much more comfortable to shoot than the GS 185 +P.

So, trying some different ammo seamed to help. I plan to continue to feed it different stuff and eventually return to the WWB to see if it does better after a break in period. Also, the slip on grip did make a noticeable difference in my ability to control the recoil.

Notes:
Iím a huge fan of the TruGlo night sites. They are by far the brightest thing Iíve seen on the market. Theyíre great for both day and night/dark shooting. Unfortunately, the design of the G36 doesnít support the TruGlo sites without some modification to the nut (grinding if down) that holds the front site down inside the slide.

Any comments from G36 owners on their experience with TruGlo or any other night sites?

I noticed that the size and shape of the G36 is almost exactly the same as my wifeís G19. The G36 also fits very well into a Galco SILHOUETTE HIGH RIDE HOLSTER for a G21. http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPG3.as...D=973&GunID=46

Iím glad to hear any of your commentsÖ

And props to Eric to weathering the storm and getting GlockTalk back online in short order. Bravo Zulu!

HB

ltj9296 05-07-2011 17:45

Hello, like you I am a fan of the 45 acp for SD. Sorry to hear about your problems, my G36 has been 100% since new. My round count is close to 1k now. Do you think the +1 mags could have a negative impact on reliability? Not sure, I have never used them. Hope it gets better. For me, the G36 is great for ccw.

tuica 05-07-2011 17:52

I have only added a Pearce +0 to my G36 mag. I did have slide locking back problems with an older mag. that I purchased used. I discovered the problem was the older mag follower, and after upgrading that part the gun has worked flawlessly. The G36 has become my main EDC in a Glock Sport/Combat Holster. Good Luck.

swampfox 05-07-2011 18:30

G36
 
Got a new in box G36 in 01/11- fte and ftf- did not trust as a ccw. Have other 45acp pistols so I traded it for a S&W 38 Bodyguard for the wife. Dealer gave me an even trade.

Pecos Bill 05-08-2011 10:31

I love my G36 Shoots everything but I am done with Winchester bullets.

Had a cap only fire. Two out of my 9mm. The bullet left the barrel but just barely. One in the G36 and I had to push the bullet out. I've heard of others having trouble but never before. Well, never again for me. Thank goodness the round was not strong enough to cycle the guns or I might have had a real problem.

Glock Master 05-20-2011 20:18

My G36 has been 100%.

glockman9mm 05-21-2011 19:57

Just shot mine tonight. Did some quick-draw- from concealment- rapid fire drills and it ran awsome. When i shoot it slow for accuracy it is hard on my hands but when i shoot defensivly- rapid fire- i don't even notice it. can shoot it as fast as any of my glocks- which is pretty fast :cool:

Honor Bound 05-27-2011 09:03

So here’s a follow up with the new G36…

My third trip to the range went great. I fired 200 rounds without a hiccup.

100 rounds of Remington UMC and 100 rounds of Remington UMC JHPs. So now I have 600 rounds through the gun. Haven’t had a failure in over 400 rounds.

I starting to believe it was the WWB that is the problem.

My accuracy still doesn’t match my G30, which is my favorite Glock, but it is improving. I’ve decided to move forward with the TruGlo sights and follow some guidance to make them work.

Lockback 06-01-2011 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honor Bound (Post 17408752)
So hereís a follow up with the new G36Ö

My third trip to the range went great. I fired 200 rounds without a hiccup.

100 rounds of Remington UMC and 100 rounds of Remington UMC JHPs. So now I have 600 rounds through the gun. Havenít had a failure in over 400 rounds.

I starting to believe it was the WWB that is the problem.

My accuracy still doesnít match my G30, which is my favorite Glock, but it is improving. Iíve decided to move forward with the TruGlo sights and follow some guidance to make them work.


I've had one failure with my G36: WWB hardball.

JoeG19 06-02-2011 18:56

Runs like a top.
 
I have had no failures of any kind w/ my 36. I have shot Remington Golden Saber 230gr; Remington UMC; PMC and I am in the middle of a value pak of Federal American Eagle 230. About 450 rounds total. I have Pearce +0s on all of my mags. My sights are shown below and are excellent for quick pick-up. - 'ole joe :cool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...Amrglo_002.jpg

doneroman 06-07-2011 17:43

Nice review. Thanks for the follow-up.

RebelYell1861 08-30-2011 10:15

Does anyone know if there is a grip sleeve made specifically for the G36? All the Hogue grip sleeves seem to only be for other models. Will a trimmed down version of the Hogue Handall work, or is it too large for the G36 frame?

MIKES LAW 09-04-2011 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lockback (Post 17434025)
I've had one failure with my G36: WWB hardball.

Yesterday, I bought a G36 used, but not very abused, fire date of 2/11, and put 100 rounds of WWB hardball through it today with three FTE's; at round 85, Willie, the range honcho, thought there was a build up of residue on the ejector and we cleaned it and it finished up all right.

I had cleaned it pretty well last night and the first FTE was at about round 30 so I am thinking more along the line that WWB 230 gr. .45 hardball doesn't have the juice to push the slide all the way back all the time. I am going to try to get some other ammo and get to a range tomorrow or next weekend at the latest.

Approximately, 8 yrs ago I shot a G36 and G30 side by side to see which I liked better and I got the now well known pinky pinch from the G36 and bought the G30. Yesterday, I put Pierce + zeros on the G36 mags and wahla - no picky pinch.

The G36 is one nice feeling gun to shoot and carry. When it shot, it was very accurate. I want it to work well enough to be confident in using the G36 as my EDC.

I'll report back.

G36_Me 09-12-2011 11:17

Glock lists the following probable causes for Failure to Eject or Erratic Ejection (including stove pipes)
Broken or damaged ejector - replace trigger mechanism housing with ejector
Underpowered ammunition - change ammo (your WWB should work, in my opinion)
Dirty chamber - clean chamber
Shooting with an unlocked wrist - lock shooting hand wrist
Lack of lubrication - lubricate (don't listen to folks who say no lube is required, follow the owner's manual suggestions)
Dirty gun - Clean

do note this: the ejector is actually a part of the trigger mechanism and a key to ejecting success. Of course, the extractor is important and needs to be checked, but also remember the ejector plays an important role.

good luck and keep us posted.

G36_Me 09-12-2011 11:28

Regarding night sights and G36 and having to file down the front sight nut; yes, similar experience here. I love my night sights. I have TG-H3 on my G36. Excellent!

jbclark187 09-12-2011 11:42

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CanyonMan 09-13-2011 19:46

Well amigo's, for me, and a friend or two on here ... The stock G36 left alone, shoots my hand loads of 7.6/7.7grs of Power Pistol with a 230 gr. XTP, or 230gr anything JHP, at about 910fps... recoil is very manageable (i am used to 44mags) And this has proved to be a very decent carry gun. Won't replace my M19111 45 acp EDC, but it is a very nice piece none the less. Holds poker chip size groups at 35 yds, and that is good enough for me. ;)

Stock everything. All did was polish the feed ramp and chamber to a mirror finish.... Thats it. ;) Feeds everything you can name flawlessly. I put a 22 # spring in it, and it shot like crap. I left it stock acccept for a 3.5# connector and it drills holes waaaaaay out there. Got about 1500+ rounds thru it, and not ONE hiccup.
Enjoy it. It is a very nice weapon, and one of Glocks best.

NOTE******

I came back and made a MAJOR correction here on load data. I had said 7.6 7.7 grs Blue Dot.... NO NO NO.. That is supposed to be Power Pistol !!!!!!!!!!!!


I have made the correction above...
Very sorry for the typo. I usually do not screw up like that, but had somethng else on my mind ! Appologies to all !


Good shooting







CanyonMan

G36_Me 09-16-2011 09:09

i consider mine to be stock, almost

polished ramp
night sights
3.5 lb connector
springs changed
metal recoil spring
no extensions on mags

shoots like a champ, as good a trigger as can get without getting silly, never any issues with light primer strikes.

awesome shooter

Twodog 09-24-2011 22:22

My favorite carry gun. For that matter it is my favorite handgun. No problems at all with one exception. When I first bought it, it shot high. I ended up installing a set of night sights. A Trijicon front and Glock short rear night sight. Shoots right on the money now.

Chipotle 09-26-2011 19:24

Honorbound, Swampbox and Lockback:

Did your malfunctions look like this?

I've been keeping track of G36 problems since my issues in 2009. Last one I saw here on GT was in Aug 2010. I thought the problems were over Now three G36 problems in the past 4 months? It only appears one of the three are used too.

My advice - record everything: round count, ammo brand, and any/all communication with Glock.

Good luck.


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