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quality of Romanian Aks
I want to see what some more have to say about the romanian aks, any problems like the usual canting, poor finish, ect. bottem line would you reccomend them not because of the low price because of the rifle its self ? if not which type of ak would you reccomend to buy not taking price in to consideration ?
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A friend of mine has an arsenal. They both shoot without problems. Mine was only $359 a couple of years ago, only addition is a folding stock. He has over $1000 in his with every gadget you can get. To each his own. |
how good is quality on the Century GP75 with the american made barrel and receiver is it better than the WASR ? i cant find any reviews on it.
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I have a sar1 finish is a little rough compared to my sa m7.
But won't give it up! |
I've have had:
2- SAR-1's 2- SAR-2's 2- SAR-3's 2- AES10b's 1- PSL 1- WASR-22 All have worked 100%,one had a slight cant of front sight. The finish has been hit or miss,but I can take care of that. |
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Take a look at http://www.novarata.net/Linx310/index.html. It will tell you the good, the bad, and the ugly about Romanian AK rifles. It will also tell and just as importantly, show you how to correct the bad and the ugly if either or both affect your rifle.
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I had a good SAR-1, and two terrible WASR's. I've also seen a few other terrible WASR's, along with a few other Romanian variants. All in all, I'd pass. They may be reliable, but I've seen too many other problems to be able to recommend them with a clear concience. There are so many other great options, I don't see why people are willing to take a chance.
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I have a couple of Romys that are as nice as any other AK I've ever seen, but I had a good quality builder do them rather than buying something Century threw together.
The SAR-1 that I had was a good gun, but not as nicely finished as my others, I ended up selling it to a buddy. |
I recently purchased a WASR 10/63 from Classic Arms (classicarms.us) and shot it for the first time this weekend. The sites were DEAD on out to 100 yards. A friend and I were hitting anything we aimed at... something which surprised us both. We were using Wolf ammo, nothing special. I paid ~$380 for mine, sold the plastic furniture for $40, and bought nicely refinished wood furniture on AK47.net for $40. The rifle looks beautiful now.
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I’ve never owned an AK, but am doing research now. I’ve read enough positive and negative stuff about the WASR to believe they are fine. I don’t care about the rough looks they may have, tho canted sights reports I see have me concerned. In fact, I want a beater. I actually stumbled into a store that had one in stock the other day. It was rough in appearance, but felt nice. It had a bayonet on it, and with the bayonet on, the gun was quite front end heavy. Without the bayonet, it felt nice. The only reason I did not buy it, was because he was asking $590, but came down to $550. About $100 to $150 overpriced.
WASR is probably all most of us need. |
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Seems like every time I go to a range where peeps are shooting AKM's they are mostly wasr's. I don't see anybody having trouble with them. I loan them my sight adjustment tool if they are using a spent case and a rock to adjust the sights.
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Hickock45 just put up a video on the Arsenal and Romanian WASR. Worth watching.
http://www.youtube.com/user/hickok45#p/u/1/z0J_7niRsdc |
does anyone got anything on the century Polish M60 ???
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I have Bulgarian, Chinese, Egyptian, Romanian and other variant CAI builds.
The Chinese MAK90s are the strongest built of any I've owned. Heavier too. Egyptian are built on Russian equipment and have a parked finish with epoxy overcoat which makes them pretty rust resistent. Bulgarians are great as well as some of the Hungarian types. As for what I like to grab when I go to the range?? I will most often grab a Romanian SAR1 or WASR just because they are a batlle tank AK. If you get past the canted sights or other issues they've had due to CAI monkeying, they are truly the Chevy or Ford of the AKs. I have yet had one to fail me. Just triple check anything made in 99-2001 era for the sights and gas blocks. The wood is great on the Romanians but the finish is what stinks. Sand them down and refinish of you want and they will be very pretty indeed. If you want to spend the money on a SAM or other US made versions or with milled receivers, go for it. It won't make it any better in my opinion but it will be nicer finished and probably more accurate. If you want a gun you can use in any weather and odn't care if it gets a scratch on it every now and again, get a Romanian. |
Got a GP WASR 10/63 !!!!! it came with two steel 30rd mags, leather sling, slant muzzle brake, bayonet lug, oil bottle, cleaning kit, bayonet w/sheath, and leather frog. slight mag wobble (every Ak i've seen has slight mag wobble) 1965 dated with triangle and arrow, unmatching serial numbers (kinda sucks), front sight block slightly canted (fixed it) ok finish for a WASR, put about 300 rounds down range (worked flawlessly) groups about 3.5-4 inches at 50 yards and i paid $599 tax included
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Matching numbers are for collectors. I wouldn't worry about it as it was made from a parts kit, no telling what all the original matching parts were like.
As for mag wobble. Who cares. Like you said, most wobble. Some more than others. I never understood why people squeel about mag wobble. I've never seen it affect feeding or function and the dimples on the side don't help stabalize it like some think. Even the tightest I've had never touch. The metal mags will always have a little play and makes it easier to insert. If you want real tight fit, get some Tapco 30rd plastic waffle mags. They are tight side to side and front to back in anything I've put them in so far. The GP kits are older models from Romania and I don't know if truly better or worse than new manufacture. They seem fine and like any AK, if it's straight and feeds and you can hit your mark, you've got a keeper. There's nothing that can't be replaced or fixed on an AK. Good deal. |
I just picked up a WASR 10 yesterday. Paid about $375 for it.
Its my first AK. I own dozens of other rifles and pistols. Just wanted an AK, didn't want to spend much for it. Hope to get out to the range with it this weekend. |
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30 rounds, but the newer generation no barrel contact handguard on the Arsenal SGL does not smoke up. The paint or oil on the outside of the barrel did burn off a bit though. A melted or burnt handguard is going to promote looseness and play havoc with point of aim and precision. Wood degrades (oxidizes) from high barrel heat and the same can happen. No thanks. I had it happen before and learned from it. If your going to get the barrel hot enough, its something to consider. I've though about how easy it might be to make a machined steel adapter that allows an old style handsguard retainer to properly utilize a modern no contact AK 100 series style handuard but unless there is a demand its just an idea without a market and no one will make them. Ok, sorry for the rant, back to comparisons. |
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I got out to the range with my Wasr today.
It functioned fine. As a single shot. It would not strip rounds out of the magazine. It fired and ejected single rounds fine. I had trouble getting the mag out, the release latch would not depress all the way without considerable force. After about 40 rounds, and about that many times in and out of the mag well, it got allot easier. I cleaned the barrel before I went to the range. I will try and field strip and clean the rifle, then try again. I wonder if the bolt was not completely retracting after firing. I was shooting steel case Wolf ammo. Anyone else have this issue? Oh, and you can save the "well its Romanian, what did you expect" comments. |
Back to the range this a.m. with the WASR. Took the other mag that came with the rifle this time.
Shot like a champ. I only had 20 rounds left of 7.62x39 but all fed and fired without a hiccup. Wonder if I should try to send the other mag back to Century. Maybe they will exchange it? |
What kind of magazine were you using?
sounds like the tab on the back of the mag isn't seating all the way to the selector stop when inserted. Could be that one mag is slightly longer from back to front. Filing a tad off of the inside back of the magwell could solve this issue or you could just stick with mags that work in that rifle. |
I am the process of buying a ROMAK from some one on another forum. From the pictures it is nice and has the dimples at the magwell. He has put a std stock and pistol grip on it and it has a nice duraKote finish. Anyone here own one?
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I have a SAR-1 and a SAR-2 and they are both great rifles - never had a hiccup with either one and they the SAR 1 is 4-5 MOA and the SAR-2 is 3-4 MOA.
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