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November Sunrise
09-23-2010, 14:16
I have seen more than a few contradicting articles regarding the need for crimping straight wall cased ammo. Specifically the 9MM. I currently do give mine a light crimp only because i don't feel comfortable NOT doing so. My Lee dies are new and they size the case wall to a smaller diameter than the inserted bullet. The finished rounds have a bell appearance and i am sure the bullet will be held in place sufficiently by this alone but i still give em a little crimp to ensure the flare on the case mouth is gone.What are your thoughts?

ron59
09-23-2010, 14:52
I have seen more than a few contradicting articles regarding the need for crimping straight wall cased ammo. Specifically the 9MM. I currently do give mine a light crimp only because i don't feel comfortable NOT doing so. My Lee dies are new and they size the case wall to a smaller diameter than the inserted bullet. The finished rounds have a bell appearance and i am sure the bullet will be held in place sufficiently by this alone but i still give em a little crimp to ensure the flare on the case mouth is gone.What are your thoughts?

What you said. You're not really "crimping", but instead removing the flare. You can even measure it... at the case mouth, desired diameter is something along: .375-.377 "

fredj338
09-23-2010, 15:20
Always, regardless of what ever article you read, always crimp psitol ammo, always. It's more rleiable & more accurate, why not?

jdavionic
09-23-2010, 15:39
I always crimp 9mm rounds. The last thing I was is a bullet getting pushed back in the case while I shooting a match.

Boxerglocker
09-23-2010, 17:21
I always crimp 9mm rounds. The last thing I was is a bullet getting pushed back in the case while I shooting a match.

Ditto.... .377 :wavey:

njl
09-23-2010, 17:23
Or...bullet diameter + (brass thickness at the mouth * 2).

lanternlad
09-23-2010, 17:26
I remember reading an article that said crimping was better because it allowed more pressure to build up behind the bullet instead of escaping around the sides. This gives the bullet more velocity and a harder hit upon impact. I'm assuming the pressure escape of crimped vs uncrimped would be negligible, but hey, with 9mm you need all the power you can get. :)

Zombie Steve
09-23-2010, 17:58
Taper crimp to remove the flare you put on before you seated the bullet. That's all. Neck tension holds it. I think performance-wise, roll crimps for bullets with cannelures (mostly revolver rounds) can help get a more consistent ignition and leave less unburnt powder, but again, a taper crimp doesn't hold the bullet in place, neck tension does.

fredj338
09-23-2010, 18:03
Taper crimp to remove the flare you put on before you seated the bullet. That's all. Neck tension holds it. I think performance-wise, roll crimps for bullets with cannelures (mostly revolver rounds) can help get a more consistent ignition and leave less unburnt powder, but again, a taper crimp doesn't hold the bullet in place, neck tension does.
ZOmbie, right again. You get a little bit of tension out of a good TC, but it's all about neck tension.:wavey:

1glockfan23
09-23-2010, 18:10
I use the light taper crimp that the Lee seating die provides, and is usually sufficient for my 9mm and 40 rounds. I use the Lee Factory Crimp die on my revolver ammo since I load lead bullets in those.

dudel
09-23-2010, 19:23
Always crimp. Pistol rounds that headspace on the case mouth (like 9mm) get a taper crimp. Pistol rounds that headspace on the rim, get a roll crimp. Doesn't matter what kind of die you're using. Lee provided a crimp die in the set. What you percieve as neck tension means nothing.

Colorado4Wheel
09-23-2010, 19:30
You will use a crimp die to remove the flare but you don't actually crimp it. Look in your Lyman manual and you will see even when they talk about crimp they are not bending the case in towards the bullet. So it's symantics for 9mm. Below is drawing of what Lyman recommends with crimp. Notice it has no inward turn of the case.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r215/98sr20ve/img340.jpg

November Sunrise
09-24-2010, 05:24
Thanks for the info guys. Looks like the crimp die stays.

sig2009
09-24-2010, 18:12
What you said. You're not really "crimping", but instead removing the flare. You can even measure it... at the case mouth, desired diameter is something along: .375-.377 "

I try to keep at .377. If you go down to .375 with a plated bullet you are putting a deep groove into the bullet and you will be cutting into the plating.

sig2009
09-24-2010, 18:13
I use the light taper crimp that the Lee seating die provides, and is usually sufficient for my 9mm and 40 rounds. I use the Lee Factory Crimp die on my revolver ammo since I load lead bullets in those.

I stopped using the Lee FCD because it was resizing the bullet.